Prodrift Ireland- 2012 Rules & Regulations

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07-02-12, 10:28
B&G Extreme Drifting

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Originally Posted by hillclimber 70s

Ive been rallying for years and always wore a peltor open face ,found them more comfortable and never had a problem at scrutiny do you know I think this helmet thing is down to image,R

Yea thats well and good man but we r talking about safety here, and you have even said its more comfortable yourself, I said visibility is prob that bit better. But my point is a bad impact and the front window smashes and bits are flying about the car or god forbid a part comes of an opponents car straight through the window and for your face/head my question is are them helmets goin to save you?? NO THEY ARE NOT!! If your gonna say that is never gonna happen you would be in denial. Never say never expect the unexpected. again difference of opinion I never told you not to wear it Im not like that your decision but me myself I think there as good as having a pot on your head. Full helment or none!
07-02-12, 11:20
ste

Ur sayin bout things possibly hittin ya in the face, do you have ur visor down all the time when u drive
07-02-12, 11:28
git

I'm just here to party :laugh::laugh:
07-02-12, 11:28
B&G Extreme Drifting

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Originally Posted by ste

Ur sayin bout things possibly hittin ya in the face, do you have ur visor down all the time when u drive

I will do Steve yea being honest I had moto x lid, iv different lid now full protection with visor. Look man all I m saying is they dont protect face from injury that is all wear away lads
07-02-12, 11:32
Robbie Daly Ps13

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Originally Posted by ste

Ur sayin bout things possibly hittin ya in the face, do you have ur visor down all the time when u drive

In all fairness ste no matter what hits you on your block head it couldn't make you much uglier than u already are....! If I was u id rock on with the open face.... :P
07-02-12, 11:36
git

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Originally Posted by Robbie Daly Ps13

In all fairness ste no matter what hits you on your block head it couldn't make you much uglier than u already are....! If I was u id rock on with the open face.... :P

We have to get a like button !!!hahahahahaha
08-02-12, 00:17
decobyrne106

right reading what comments came up so far heres what i have to say.

Dash doger cages (like john explained) are weak at the s bend around the dash and make an easy crumple zone. mike fitz's dash moved back with the floor also so it's a weakpoint at the bottom to.

fire extinguishers etc imo i would have a handheld there for my own sake but a plumbed in is not needed but optional. being there is more than enough fire extinguishers around the area.

where plumed in is needed in rallying is that there's not a marshal at every corner!
there is a couple of good points tho comparing these regs to rallying but there is some things to take into consideration.

as for the helmets. if your window is down it doesn't take a crash to get debris in the face! tires, stones, bumpers, fibregalss etc. at the end of the day it's your safety on the line. if anything no1 would give a fuck as to your safety so i'd appreciate the fact there is!
08-02-12, 00:41
Diesel-Dick

jaaaaaysus who pissed in bob's tea!? the way sum lads are goin on bout safety they must walk around the place in bubble wrap everyday and wear fire proof gear and helmet driving there daily cars to work :o u could be in a 100mph (2 cars going 50mph head on) collision brining ur granny to mass but u dont put a cage and harness in ur daily car :p but all jokes aside all this 'what if' is a load of shit, practice days are still drifting and just as dangerous and theres no need for fire proof anything or a cage, why do lads get on there high horse bout safety just because its 'prodrift'??? id consider a practice day at mondello alot more dangerous then prodrift at a small track like ennis! if the safety preachers are so concerned maybe they should start wearing all the fire proof gear at practice days and not just prodrift, or else come off there high horses, at the end of the day drifting is suppose to be fun and im jus here to party in git's pants! :kiss:
08-02-12, 00:52
Derk

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Originally Posted by Diesel-Dick

jaaaaaysus who pissed in bob's tea!? the way sum lads are goin on bout safety they must walk around the place in bubble wrap everyday and wear fire proof gear and helmet driving there daily cars to work :o u could be in a 100mph (2 cars going 50mph head on) collision brining ur granny to mass but u dont put a cage and harness in ur daily car :p but all jokes aside all this 'what if' is a load of shit, practice days are still drifting and just as dangerous and theres no need for fire proof anything or a cage, why do lads get on there high horse bout safety just because its 'prodrift'??? id consider a practice day at mondello alot more dangerous then prodrift at a small track like ennis! if the safety preachers are so concerned maybe they should start wearing all the fire proof gear at practice days and not just prodrift, or else come off there high horses, at the end of the day drifting is suppose to be fun and im jus here to party in git's pants! :kiss:

Makes sense to me... Well said Mr. Dick ;)
08-02-12, 01:06
Chuck_g

Anyone wanna answer my question?
08-02-12, 01:40
decobyrne106

just read it there. no higher than half the hight of the door car (or bottom of the door to the window)
08-02-12, 02:01
DaveM-sport

Ten pages giving out about two bars and helmets???

Only rule I'm abit annoyed about is the bulkhead rule as its pretty much the only one that will make a big change to the cars and may be alittle unfair advantage to older cars but when there's so many other series going that way now, I suppose it doesn't make any odds and at least you can enter them too rather than being tied to just one.

I hope it doesn't start to reduce the amount of variety on track though with interesting engines and thinking outside the box rather than just all SR20s with silly money spent on them
08-02-12, 08:01
Driftfest

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Originally Posted by DaveM-sport

Ten pages giving out about two bars and helmets???

Only rule I'm abit annoyed about is the bulkhead rule as its pretty much the only one that will make a big change to the cars and may be alittle unfair advantage to older cars but when there's so many other series going that way now, I suppose it doesn't make any odds and at least you can enter them too rather than being tied to just one.

I hope it doesn't start to reduce the amount of variety on track though with interesting engines and thinking outside the box rather than just all SR20s with silly money spent on them

Well said dave ,you always come out with the best quotes,Im thinking of making you my tech minister/td pays well?ha ha
08-02-12, 08:27
tweek

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Originally Posted by Chuck_g

Anyone wanna answer my question?

No chuck your bum doesn't look big in a race suit ;-)
08-02-12, 09:21
Mick K

And a man can't cum inside another man Charles
08-02-12, 11:58
Stevo

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Originally Posted by Chuck_g

Anyone wanna answer my question?

Ive no problem with you gargling before you swallow young man :kiss:
08-02-12, 13:04
twailbait

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Originally Posted by Diesel-Dick

jaaaaaysus who pissed in bob's tea!? the way sum lads are goin on bout safety they must walk around the place in bubble wrap everyday and wear fire proof gear and helmet driving there daily cars to work :o u could be in a 100mph (2 cars going 50mph head on) collision brining ur granny to mass but u dont put a cage and harness in ur daily car :p but all jokes aside all this 'what if' is a load of shit, practice days are still drifting and just as dangerous and theres no need for fire proof anything or a cage, why do lads get on there high horse bout safety just because its 'prodrift'??? id consider a practice day at mondello alot more dangerous then prodrift at a small track like ennis! if the safety preachers are so concerned maybe they should start wearing all the fire proof gear at practice days and not just prodrift, or else come off there high horses, at the end of the day drifting is suppose to be fun and im jus here to party in git's pants! :kiss:

Practice days are twice as dangerous as competing!

Much higher speeds as you can use the whole straight at mondelo, 20 cars on track at once! No scrutiny on cars!
08-02-12, 13:54
Jay Rockett

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Originally Posted by twailbait

Practice days are twice as dangerous as competing!

Much higher speeds as you can use the whole straight at mondelo, 20 cars on track at once! No scrutiny on cars!

Not necessarily!

In Mondello you have gravel-traps, run-offs etc. In competition you have barriers and walls! Speed down the main straight and extra cars on track is the only added danger, but you can back off and give space to avoid incidents! In competition you HAVE to trust the driver infront and enter the first corner as fast as they do and as close to they're door as you can get! If either driver messes up you can end up putting your car straight into the leading cars seat, which is why the door bar rule has changed to 2 bars for example!
08-02-12, 15:41
B&G Extreme Drifting

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Originally Posted by DaveM-sport

Ten pages giving out about two bars and helmets???

Only rule I'm abit annoyed about is the bulkhead rule as its pretty much the only one that will make a big change to the cars and may be alittle unfair advantage to older cars but when there's so many other series going that way now, I suppose it doesn't make any odds and at least you can enter them too rather than being tied to just one.

I hope it doesn't start to reduce the amount of variety on track though with interesting engines and thinking outside the box rather than just all SR20s with silly money spent on them

good point but unfortunately unless you spend money generally not much hope with the yokes out there these 500,600,700,800bhp cars 200bhp is a thing of the past! dont jump on me a very talented person with 200-250bhp can give it a good go but serious what hope have they, up the straight too a loo, not just here in ire, eng and the rest europe, america is exact the same. as the saying goes not smoke no poke
08-02-12, 15:43
B&G Extreme Drifting

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Originally Posted by Jay

Not necessarily!

In Mondello you have gravel-traps, run-offs etc. In competition you have barriers and walls! Speed down the main straight and extra cars on track is the only added danger, but you can back off and give space to avoid incidents! In competition you HAVE to trust the driver infront and enter the first corner as fast as they do and as close to they're door as you can get! If either driver messes up you can end up putting your car straight into the leading cars seat, which is why the door bar rule has changed to 2 bars for example!

great point Jay and very easy to understand why they want the extra bar on door :)
08-02-12, 21:19
JStone

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Originally Posted by B&G Extreme Drifting

is x needed at doors? is the 1 bar not allowed this year?

no you'll need two bars!

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Originally Posted by juice

My cage looks like this, Same as the image on the prodrift regs:

http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/a...1260816910.jpg

It's OMP through dash

Do I have to add another door bar???

yep

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Originally Posted by Chuck_g

Id have to agree with that Daly chap here, safety is PD's number one issue here, be it that they actually give a shit or maybe its for insurance purposes but they have set the rules, now lets adhere to them. Is a persons life not worth an extra few pound?

Anyway, quick question. I plan on doing dual horizontal bars with 3 brace bars between, nascar style i think. How high does the top bar need to be to suit regs? Cheers

as high as possible but no higher than half the total hight of the door opening

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Originally Posted by Trixta

Just wondering John. If a 1 layer fireproof suit is all thats required, and a fireproof vest. Then would a 3 layer suit be ok just on its own? Surely offers more overall protection? Not a big deal I know..

as long as you dont wear any man made fibres under it you should be ok, id still recommend wearing the vest if at all possible

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Originally Posted by Diesel-Dick

jaaaaaysus who pissed in bob's tea!? the way sum lads are goin on bout safety they must walk around the place in bubble wrap everyday and wear fire proof gear and helmet driving there daily cars to work :o u could be in a 100mph (2 cars going 50mph head on) collision brining ur granny to mass but u dont put a cage and harness in ur daily car :p but all jokes aside all this 'what if' is a load of shit, practice days are still drifting and just as dangerous and theres no need for fire proof anything or a cage, why do lads get on there high horse bout safety just because its 'prodrift'??? id consider a practice day at mondello alot more dangerous then prodrift at a small track like ennis! if the safety preachers are so concerned maybe they should start wearing all the fire proof gear at practice days and not just prodrift, or else come off there high horses, at the end of the day drifting is suppose to be fun and im jus here to party in git's pants! :kiss:

two cars in a head on at 50mph is not the same as a 100mph crash ;)

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Originally Posted by Jay

Not necessarily!

In Mondello you have gravel-traps, run-offs etc. In competition you have barriers and walls! Speed down the main straight and extra cars on track is the only added danger, but you can back off and give space to avoid incidents! In competition you HAVE to trust the driver infront and enter the first corner as fast as they do and as close to they're door as you can get! If either driver messes up you can end up putting your car straight into the leading cars seat, which is why the door bar rule has changed to 2 bars for example!

exactly jay,

also open faced helmet is ok if worn with a fire proof balaclava.
08-02-12, 23:54
B&G Extreme Drifting

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Originally Posted by JStone

no you'll need two bars!

yep

as high as possible but no higher than half the total hight of the door opening

as long as you dont wear any man made fibres under it you should be ok, id still recommend wearing the vest if at all possible

two cars in a head on at 50mph is not the same as a 100mph crash ;)

exactly jay,

also open faced helmet is ok if worn with a fire proof balaclava.

Cool John thanks for the reply.
09-02-12, 01:12
Chuck_g

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Originally Posted by tweek

No chuck your bum doesn't look big in a race suit ;-)

Yes it seriously does :P

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Originally Posted by Mick K

And a man can't cum inside another man Charles

Fact!! Il have some new fun facts for this years Briefing...!

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Originally Posted by Stevo

Ive no problem with you gargling before you swallow young man :kiss:

Sexy :wink:

Okay, i think i get how high they are meant to be.......just hope il still be able to get into the car with my big arse and gammy leg.....:o
09-02-12, 02:29
Greg

So a cage like this will be fine? I would rather this style because I really don't want to hack lumps out of my dash(sad, I know).

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Originally Posted by tweek

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/m.../dashdodge.jpg
http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/m...edashdodge.jpg
09-02-12, 16:38
alan180sx

Am wonderin how far forward the x in the door bar can be. lookin at the bar i already ave in car to make it an X the X wil b more to the front half of the door..

is this acceptable
09-02-12, 20:05
garyae86

Can any one please tell me if your tunnel and middle off your bulk head is cut out and re model is this allowed or will it pass pro-drift regs ???
10-02-12, 02:47
DaveM-sport

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Originally Posted by B&G Extreme Drifting

good point but unfortunately unless you spend money generally not much hope with the yokes out there these 500,600,700,800bhp cars 200bhp is a thing of the past! dont jump on me a very talented person with 200-250bhp can give it a good go but serious what hope have they, up the straight too a loo, not just here in ire, eng and the rest europe, america is exact the same. as the saying goes not smoke no poke

Exactly my point...

Big straight six turbos, V8s, V10s etc can all have 500-800bhp in interesting and light cars and be very capable if positioned right for balance.
Without cutting the bulkhead, I can't really see any of those cars being very competitive against the regular S-bodys etc unless money is poured into the bottom of an SR money pit.
No offence to anybody but I really don't want to see or more importantly hear a full grid of SR powered yokes :D

It's still not the end of the world by all accounts though, not being able to cut the bulkhead also opens more competitive series for drivers if they want to do more than just pro-drift with a certain car too of course such as BDC, ITCC etc as rules are already in place there.
10-02-12, 02:52
DaveM-sport

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Originally Posted by Diesel-Dick

jdriving there daily cars to work :o u could be in a 100mph (2 cars going 50mph head on) collision brining ur granny to mass but u dont put a cage and harness in ur daily car :p

Two cars at 50mph head on would in most cases be alot kinder to the occupants than a 100mph collision into a solid immovable object ;)

They probably would still all be dead either way though if they have a shitty cage and race gear however :D

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Originally Posted by Greg

So a cage like this will be fine? I would rather this style because I really don't want to hack lumps out of my dash(sad, I know).

Definitely not! a Dash dodger would be safer than that...

If you have an off that doesn't even end up in rolling the car, you could still hit a wall hard enough with the front of the car and send the front wheel back into the footwell.

If you hit the wall hard enough, the wheel will keep going until it pushes enough parts out of the way until the energy is absorbed... your legs being one of them!
It'll be stopped by the leg of the cage but your feet will still be taken out before it gets that far.

But if the dash is more valuable than not being in a wheelchair, then fire away obviously :D
10-02-12, 05:18
Greg

The effects of a frontal impact had crossed my mind alright, but I was thinking could I not just run a bar from where it would clear the dash from the front leg into the footwell?
10-02-12, 11:01
garyae86

can any one shead light on my bulk head matter :o as the prodrift offices are closed till the 17th
10-02-12, 11:30
Boguey001

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Originally Posted by garyae86

can any one shead light on my bulk head matter :o as the prodrift offices are closed till the 17th

As far as i know lad the car Doesnt have to be finished to be logged so I'd reckon it would be ok but im not sure atal about that.
10-02-12, 11:34
200sx

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Originally Posted by garyae86

Can any one please tell me if your tunnel and middle off your bulk head is cut out and re model is this allowed or will it pass pro-drift regs ???

Bulk head modification is allowed but is being outlawed in 2013
10-02-12, 12:12
B&G Extreme Drifting

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Originally Posted by 200sx

Bulk head modification is allowed but is being outlawed in 2013

jaysus thats mad so what bout say silvias that have make bigger hole in bulk for say rb25 box and the likes??
10-02-12, 12:12
Boguey001

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Originally Posted by 200sx

Bulk head modification is allowed but is being outlawed in 2013

Its been outlawed this year lad according to the regs?
10-02-12, 12:25
chrisb

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Originally Posted by B&G Extreme Drifting

jaysus thats mad so what bout say silvias that have make bigger hole in bulk for say rb25 box and the likes??

regs say tunnel modification is permited
10-02-12, 12:33
B&G Extreme Drifting

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Originally Posted by chrisb

regs say tunnel modification is permited

ahh that aint so bad so.... :)
10-02-12, 12:37
B&G Extreme Drifting

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Originally Posted by DaveM-sport

Exactly my point...

Big straight six turbos, V8s, V10s etc can all have 500-800bhp in interesting and light cars and be very capable if positioned right for balance.
Without cutting the bulkhead, I can't really see any of those cars being very competitive against the regular S-bodys etc unless money is poured into the bottom of an SR money pit.
No offence to anybody but I really don't want to see or more importantly hear a full grid of SR powered yokes :D

It's still not the end of the world by all accounts though, not being able to cut the bulkhead also opens more competitive series for drivers if they want to do more than just pro-drift with a certain car too of course such as BDC, ITCC etc as rules are already in place there.

Iv good feeling it be more 6cylinders than usual so dont worry bout that, rb's 1jz-2jz and hopefully there be 2-3 raw v8 yup that would be serious, and I jizzed in my pants lol :) :)
10-02-12, 21:33
garyae86

Thanks for this info lads
10-02-12, 23:12
200sx

That's what I was told by a member off prodrift staff only a few days ago..bulkheads are ok this year but are being outlawed in 2013
13-02-12, 19:51
LAGGER

Good to see the rules out, The Bulkhead issue needs to be cleared up

It seems to me that if the car is logged before 15 April with a modified bulkhead then the car is ok for PD for good

This creates an unfair advantage

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