Suspension set up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[PeterT]

[QUOTE=Robbie Daly Ps13;63158]You really are narrow minded about this aren't you........ And its not only fast shit your totally wrong....... Im not saying your car won't slide without it cause it will....... /QUOTE]


from MY experience, in numerous cars, no matter how shit they are, youl get them to slide little corners like goldstone. PERSONALY cant see how you turned from not being able to slide the corners to 2nd placer after having a few arms thrown in but thats just me sure.



anyways

[Flat Eric]

If people stayed in a basic car until they had it mastered and had actually got talent beyond what the car was capable then they would be a far better driver for it.Learning how to control a piece of crap car is way more fun and a better lesson than changing loads of shit so its easier to drift.

Anyone remember James Deane in that sierra ???

Obviously a lot of people just want their car to have the best bits they can afford and thats cool but if you've just bought adjustable everything and have to ask some one what way to set it then your probably not at such a level that you actually need it.

It does make a difference, at every level but the best way to figure it out is trial and error.Learning what changes effect the car mean you can best set it up for your style, just copying someone else settings is pointless imho

I think your best to start at a neutral set up, damper settings mid way, all the wheels pointing straight, 3 - 5 degrees camber up front and 1 - 2 rear maybe.A sensible ride height and average tyre pressures, depending on the car.

It's good to hear about a pro driver's set up like Polo's but you could hop into his car and think it drives shit, even though it works for him.

[Micko]

If people stayed in a basic car until they had it mastered and had actually got talent beyond what the car was capable then they would be a far better driver for it.Learning how to control a piece of crap car is way more fun and a better lesson than changing loads of shit so its easier to drift.

Anyone remember James Deane in that sierra ???

Obviously a lot of people just want their car to have the best bits they can afford and thats cool but if you've just bought adjustable everything and have to ask some one what way to set it then your probably not at such a level that you actually need it.
It does make a difference, at every level but the best way to figure it out is trial and error.Learning what changes effect the car mean you can best set it up for your style, just copying someone else settings is pointless imho

I think your best to start at a neutral set up, damper settings mid way, all the wheels pointing straight, 3 - 5 degrees camber up front and 1 - 2 rear maybe.A sensible ride height and average tyre pressures, depending on the car.

It's good to hear about a pro driver's set up like Polo's but you could hop into his car and think it drives shit, even though it works for him.

Some of what you are saying id agree with eric, but the statement i have highligted in bold id completely disagree with!! Im not a mechanic and i dont try to be but i do have a good general knowlege of what a good competative drift car needs. I know that it needs a certain degree of camber ( keeping in mind that every car and every driver differs), toe in, toe out, castor, spring rate, rebound etc..Just because i dont know the exact settings does not mean that i am not at a level that i need it.
Thats why i got an expet like mike deane to set up my own car, a person that actually new what he was at, to dial in the correct settings to suit my actual car, and i havnt looked back since!!

[Flat Eric]

Mike Deane certainly knows his stuff and no doubt your car is vastly improved than before.

There is no exact settings to know, every car is different as is every driver.If you had of set the car yourself at a good average setting to start, which with your 'good general knowledge' would have been easily done, then you would now know how specific changes make the car feel as you make progress and develop your set up as you go.

You are most likely plenty able to set up your car yourself but you gave it to a pro to do for you and will most likely adapt your driving to suit it.
Nothing wrong with that, my argument is that if a good driver feels they need full adjustment they will most likely research it, figure out the principle behind a particular change of angles and then have a good basic knowledge of where to start themselves.

Maybe Im a nut case and Im the only one that does it............... meh.

[Chuck_g]

All il say is my Suspension is ALL Fucked up at the moment, cambers out, trackings out, etc etc and i ran with it all last season and i did okay. I hope to notice a huge difference when its all set up before new season but il agree if a person can drift good they can drift with or without every arm etc modified..........They make do with what they have!!

That said i have FUCK all knowledge of Suspension............so its just my humble Opinion.

[git]

Im in the same situation i wudnt be the greatest pilot ,and i have the basics coilys, diff. antirollbars ,lecy hicas lockout camber arms ...................i havent a clue about toe camber etc ect but would love to know how it all works and try different things out one day............

[Midnight]

Thats why i put up the bloody thread for people like polo to describe the reasons for adjusting a particular part a certain way.

NOT a load of bitchen why you should or shouldnt install such or such a set up.

Eric could you put up some info on ur cam and settings and maybe why or how the car reacts differently with them.