how big will drifting get here??

i think the closure of Rosegreen after all thats where irish drifting was born, and maybe Prodrift turning into a money making machine has seen drifting in ireland go down the plughole, i remember back in the good ould days of drifting rosegreen would have a packed out crowd, the commentator would know every driver even have nick names on them and would be stuck out in the middle of the track while the drivers were doin there parade lad and doin rings round him, great value for money and smiles all round, none of that now anymore, so i think untill drifting becomes fun for the spectator its goin to be a long time growing to its full potental in ireland, god knows we have some of the best drivers in the world here, thats my 2 cents,

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Originally Posted by R32slider

i remember back in the good ould days of drifting rosegreen would have a packed out crowd, the commentator would know every driver even have nick names on them and would be stuck out in the middle of the track while the drivers were doin there parade lad and doin rings round him, great value for money and smiles all round, none of that now anymore, so i think untill drifting becomes fun for the spectator its goin to be a long time growing to its full potental in ireland, god knows we have some of the best drivers in the world here, thats my 2 cents,

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Yeah you're dead right. Some people were always giving out about maurice but he knew how to have the craic with the drivers and get the crowd going.

There was a great atmosphere and people got behind the drivers. The crowd actually gave a fuck about who won.

It would be great to have that atmosphere back again.

i feel it is the commentater that gets the crowd goin and gibbons dose a shit job at that.even when he trys no1 listens to him

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Originally Posted by Arnie

Reasons from the above (from foreigner's perspective) - please note I'm not going to insult anyone, it's just my findings.
1. Type of society. People are really practical here and cars are meant to go from a to b and that's all, oh maybe to show off their '09D to the neighbours
2. Lack of motoring culture - seriously, most people don't know how to fix simpliest things. Cars are driven to death and without NCT. Ppl don't even bother to google stuff nor to buy tool kit. No wonder that when it comes to garage prices they are O.M.F.G. because they are gods then.
3. Size of the population which relates to the size of the market - nobody will make dedicated tv programme nor build the track for handful of people
4. Availability of machine shops and their prices - try to fabricate something and you'll know what I'm talking about.
5. Availability of consumables - try to find M81.25 bolt or nut, manifold studs etc etc
6. The most annoying one - that the houses are built without any space around never mind the garage so all work is done outdoors which is a pain in the ass as it takes forever to wait for good weather, take tools out, get mate to pull engine out and clean oil spills etc etc.

IMO it's gonna take many years till things change here. And they won't change until the society changes.

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well arnie i wish i worked with more polish guys like you!most of the polish lads i know probably think im some sort of money squandering fool cos of my cars!

most of the attitudes you pointed out are a boom time thing obviously it was a very different country before this!diy of all sorts went out the window when ye had enough money to pay people to get things done(not the way i or most people i know live)
in the eighties we had no money but huge motoring culture,the five day circuit of ireland had daily reports on rte!stock car and banger racing was everywhere,i listen to endless storys from older cousins, uncles about the endless work theyd carry out on what ever ould yoke they could afford to keep it together, make it faster, look better,i found out recently a guy over the road was probably the first lad in ireland to swap twincam running gear(from a petrol bombed cam from the troubles in the north!) into a roadgoin starlet which he then switched to a rotory out of an rx7..in the eighties!
i could go on rambling but basically what im sayin if ye think something your doin is new something similar has been done!

drifting and other motorsport has takin a huge dive but hopefully it will level out and evolve,the fat has been trimmed i suppose
drifting needs different classes simple as,300 horses are nothing these days,its close competetion we want not dyno results

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Originally Posted by R32slider

i think the closure of Rosegreen after all thats where irish drifting was born, and maybe Prodrift turning into a money making machine has seen drifting in ireland go down the plughole, i remember back in the good ould days of drifting rosegreen would have a packed out crowd, the commentator would know every driver even have nick names on them and would be stuck out in the middle of the track while the drivers were doin there parade lad and doin rings round him, great value for money and smiles all round, none of that now anymore, so i think untill drifting becomes fun for the spectator its goin to be a long time growing to its full potental in ireland, god knows we have some of the best drivers in the world here, thats my 2 cents,

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i totally agree i remember the crowds there would be going mad and in turn the drivers would go even madder no atmosphere any more i feel embarresd clapping and cheering at events i feel like im the only one doing it its unreal and prices are killing it to

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Originally Posted by R32slider

i think the closure of Rosegreen after all thats where irish drifting was born, and maybe Prodrift turning into a money making machine has seen drifting in ireland go down the plughole, i remember back in the good ould days of drifting rosegreen would have a packed out crowd, the commentator would know every driver even have nick names on them and would be stuck out in the middle of the track while the drivers were doin there parade lad and doin rings round him, great value for money and smiles all round, none of that now anymore, so i think untill drifting becomes fun for the spectator its goin to be a long time growing to its full potental in ireland, god knows we have some of the best drivers in the world here, thats my 2 cents,

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yeah your dead right! ive been saying it since they closed rosegreen! no other track will EVER have the athsmosphere like rosegreen!

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Originally Posted by joey banana s14

i totally agree i remember the crowds there would be going mad and in turn the drivers would go even madder no atmosphere any more i feel embarresd clapping and cheering at events i feel like im the only one doing it its unreal and prices are killing it to

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lad on the embarressed part your right! my theory is (and it may sound stupid) when people are at pd events there scared of there shit to clap and cheer because they might NOT LOOK COOL! and its the truth! we clap and cheer at most events and you see people and young lads looking at us basically saying:

: " wat the fuk are those idiots at? if a young 1 saw them doing dat they'd never pull!"!! it might sound stupid but thats the way it is! too many people thinking of there own sort of reputation over anything else! its a joke!

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Originally Posted by Prodrifter86

lad on the embarressed part your right! my theory is (and it may sound stupid) when people are at pd events there scared of there shit to clap and cheer because they might NOT LOOK COOL! and its the truth! we clap and cheer at most events and you see people and young lads looking at us basically saying:

: " wat the fuk are those idiots at? if a young 1 saw them doing dat they'd never pull!"!! it might sound stupid but thats the way it is! too many people thinking of there own sort of reputation over anything else! its a joke!

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you just read my mind lad we were cheerin at punchestown and people around us looked pissed off as if we were in fucking mass but its support drivers need if you see a lonely lad cheerin at citywest come over and say hello haha:D

Its the Irish mentality lads... People are afraid to cheer for fear of lookin stupid...

Any1 who nos me wil tell u i dont give a fcuk what any1 thinks of me , i do wat i want and once im havin an awesome time fcuk what others think!

I no a few lads here have been to Fd includin me and iv neva experienced an atmosphere like Long Beach... The whole place was BUZZZIN!!!
Simply bcas no1s afraid to cheer... Typical Loud and proud Americans... Y cant the Irish spectators do the same???

I must admit the atmosphere around the DI stand at Punch realli got me into the day... Lads hangin out a bbq goin, few beers... HAPPY!!!

At City West y not bring a drum? R an air horn or something anything... Even bring yer lungs and use em????

I no for a fact that Pd are trying something for City West to try get the buzz and atmosphere back so people PLEASE go there with an open mind and no worries of how you look when cheerin...
If everyone on here starts shoutin no1 will look stupid!

If anyone has any suggestions bar the obvious commentator 1s that yer fireing up just shout and if theres any good 1s il do my utmost to push em threw... Im lik REALLLI lookin forward to City West and have a reallllli good feeling about it being a memorable day dudes...

that wat we are doin for city west

we are gona go to where the atmosphere is :) like at fermoy anytime sinnott was on track we were cheerin for and people were lookin at us as if we had two heads:mad: