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    Quote Originally Posted by PdDan View Post
    Lol you surely no who your talkn to...

    As most no no only a good driver, serious mecahnical no how!

    She'l be just fine for grip
    i do know,im looking forward to see this go,but good driver or not,id like to know whats he going to do for grip,ive no doubt his ability but when you have no grip,good driver or not its an issue,a 500hp ae86 that is that light is no doubt gonna have issues that way,be intresting to see


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    seen a clip of one triple rotor on the wangan , orido and friends were in pusuit , the hachi turned in to a small dot at the drop of a kog...


    got to sa fair play...toyota rotory development
    look forward to hearing it on full tilt

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamie180sx View Post
    i do know,im looking forward to see this go,but good driver or not,id like to know whats he going to do for grip,ive no doubt his ability but when you have no grip,good driver or not its an issue,a 500hp ae86 that is that light is no doubt gonna have issues that way,be intresting to see
    Good suspension and suspension geometry is what gives you grip not the weight of your vehicle

    obviously tyres play a part but its how the power is transmitted thru the tyres that is more important

    It may seem to some people that extra weight gives more grip but its not true. extra weight causes lots more problems. Equally ive seen many a tank of a car smoking tyres and going nowhere

    I set up Damien Shorts car for 2010 and im sure he would say himself that its now night and day compared to 2009. It gave him his first podium this year if im correct. His car is prob the same power and weight as my old sr86 and that didnt have grip problems either

    Everyone said 3 years ago when ASD built the Saturn Sky that it was too powerfull and too light. It weighs 1000kg and has 800hp and 780ft.lbs of torque and now its regularly the fastest car on the grid

    A 500hp ae86 this light will no doubt have no grip problems because of the time and know how that is being put into the suspension. You should know more than most its too much torque not hp that can cause problems and make a car seem loose or have no grip

    One thing that i see all the time is people modifying there front hubs to get more steering angle and not realising that its giving them less forward bite

    There is no disadvantage to removing weight as long as you realise you suspension needs to act differently with the lighter car


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    [QUOTE=D McNamara;194307]Good suspension and suspension geometry is what gives you grip not the weight of your vehicle

    True

    It may seem to some people that extra weight gives more grip but its not true. extra weight causes lots more problems. Equally ive seen many a tank of a car smoking tyres and going nowhere

    True

    One thing that i see all the time is people modifying there front hubs to get more steering angle and not realising that its giving them less forward bite


    And true


    People tend not to think about grip but in this day and age ya can go nowhere without it....! Literally....! I think corner weighting is at the stage where its essantial to be competive also....!

    Love where this car is going....! It will be epic to say the least.........!


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    Quote Originally Posted by D McNamara View Post
    Good suspension and suspension geometry is what gives you grip not the weight of your vehicle

    obviously tyres play a part but its how the power is transmitted thru the tyres that is more important

    It may seem to some people that extra weight gives more grip but its not true. extra weight causes lots more problems. Equally ive seen many a tank of a car smoking tyres and going nowhere

    I set up Damien Shorts car for 2010 and im sure he would say himself that its now night and day compared to 2009. It gave him his first podium this year if im correct. His car is prob the same power and weight as my old sr86 and that didnt have grip problems either

    Everyone said 3 years ago when ASD built the Saturn Sky that it was too powerfull and too light. It weighs 1000kg and has 800hp and 780ft.lbs of torque and now its regularly the fastest car on the grid

    A 500hp ae86 this light will no doubt have no grip problems because of the time and know how that is being put into the suspension. You should know more than most its too much torque not hp that can cause problems and make a car seem loose or have no grip

    One thing that i see all the time is people modifying there front hubs to get more steering angle and not realising that its giving them less forward bite

    There is no disadvantage to removing weight as long as you realise you suspension needs to act differently with the lighter car
    without a doubt shortts car was a different car,when ya set it up and have no doubt you will do something special with that ae86,i never thought of the sky with 800hp and when you see the way when you put the foot down it jumps forward with grip i suppose the 86 will be no prob to ya,
    cant wait to see this thing move,


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    Quote Originally Posted by D McNamara View Post
    One thing that i see all the time is people modifying there front hubs to get more steering angle and not realising that its giving them less forward bite
    Could you explain how the modified hubs reduce your forward bite please


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    Im 99% sure what hes talking about is lads putting serious lock into cars without doing anythig for grip at the back.....!

    The more angle ya have the less you'l be moving forward so you have to think about getting grip into the rear of the car to push yourself on....! Thats my thinking of it neway....!

    Grip is a massive massive factor in drifting nowadays and you'd be very very surprised at how many lads still don't realise this....!


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    i cant agree with the grip issue more,, i have serous grip issues off the line and mid drift all year due to a lack of rear setup,, will be dialing in grip over the next few mounths thanks to wez and the lads at wkd


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    This is one serious build! Great fab work. Can't wait to see the finished article.

    I'd say it will be a weapon.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Robbie Daly Ps13 View Post
    Im 99% sure what hes talking about is lads putting serious lock into cars without doing anythig for grip at the back.....!

    The more angle ya have the less you'l be moving forward so you have to think about getting grip into the rear of the car to push yourself on....! Thats my thinking of it neway....!

    Grip is a massive massive factor in drifting nowadays and you'd be very very surprised at how many lads still don't realise this....!
    Ya Robbie thats a lot of it but people changing theyre ackerman angle is also causing them problems with forward bite


 

 

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