Is Drifting Dead in Ireland

[Diarmuid]

To be honest Diarmuid, I'd argue that it's YOUR exact attitude (displayed) that's one of the main contributors to what some people see as holding back the sport.

You've been hanging around in the long grass a long time and feel that entitles you to push people around as if you have some sort of status or claim to a forum you don't contribute to. D.Daly's being a dope, but this whole forum should be about a little fun here and there. You're being aggressive and dismissive of him here. People who hang back usually are afraid to express what they want to express in public because they're afraid of being disagreed with or criticised. The type of people who go to drift events as spectators, and then complain about the good drivers always winning, the judges' bias and refuse to clap and make people feel awkward when they do clap. The type of 'super fans' who make people think twice about embracing the potential atmosphere of the drift scene. I'm not saying that you are one of those people, you're just exhibiting the characteristics of one.

You're referring to the glory days as if it's something that will never again be seen. There's still plenty of drifting to be done without having to compete in IDC or N1. Granted, Tynagh and WGH drying up a bit doesn't help my argument, but there's an opening for someone surely? Or is there?

If you ran practice sessions in WGH before why don't you do it now? I'm not saying you should, but why did you stop? I would think there's a lot more red tape involved these days. Having been involved in Driftfest, Superdrift and JustJap, I know that there's more to doing a practice day than calling them up and showing up with a bunch of buddies. Unless we were doing something seriously wrong. In the case of DF that may have been true

Anyways, i don't want to harp on about it. You might have been in a shitty mood when you wrote that. I think it's great that you started this thread, i honestly do. I don't understand how you feel that the likes of nikki hayes and justjap and superdrift and all the other "so called drift clubs or events if you want to call them that" are "Splitting up and not doing a good job promoting the sport". I know superdrift and driftfest had their differences. a lot of people knows that at this stage. But who else, and why is that a bad thing for the average punter with a rusty s-body or a 323 looking to do a practice day?

All I'm saying is that if it was that easy to make a few quid doing practice days, everyone would be doing it. Mondello is easier, granted, but it's not that simple anymore for other tracks. There are more drift cars in the country than ever before and people are importing road cars again. That can only be a good thing, that people have a few quid to spare again.

The reason i strated this thread was to see how much interest and what events and practice days were still out there. With a view to getting another car.
I sold my car long ago to fund wedding and the price of running a baby is alot more expensive than a car. So hence no car no interest.

Yes i have been on site along time ago and with little posts. I dont feel the need to post about somethinf unless i have to. Nor is post counts something that intrests me. Seems for some the more posts you have the more of a say and rite you are. I dont know where you get the idea i push people around?


I Have orginised practice sessions and with out linning my pocket. All this was done before the site crashed in 08/09. all data lost. so new site started from scratch..

I would love to be in a posistion to organise sessions and the likes. And not for money either. The last few years it was not possible. Family and work commements. Due to my work i now have a greater insite to how bussiness work and operate. If And only if i put car on track. Then ya i would do my best to organise something. And never for profit.

As regards my comments to Dave Daly i have sent him a Private message and in that message i did apollogise to him. We all see red from time to time. And everday is not always roses for everyone.

Sorry if you think i am the one giving the scene a bad name. And i talking about Track drifting. Not on the streets. Is was never my intention.

My reference to the judging i have made clear many many times. And reference to when and why. So on that point i stand firm.

I am all for people making an effort for the sport. I do know what a scrafice it takes to put a car on the track. So from that point refrence builds and stuff i would encourage rather than discourage a person.

Like you me and everyone here we are all entitled to our options. And at end of the day that is all there are. Some people take it to heart some dont..

Besides this the most activity site seen in while ..

No negativity expresed in this post.

[batman026]

I know where your coming from when you talk about cost. I have a kid myself who just turned 5 yesterday. I finally managed to scrape together some cash to buy a road car about 2 weeks ago. I argee with you 100% when you dont have a car you have no interest. Thankfully I have great friends around me that kept the interest alive. I would love to see an event on wgh again and id be there with bells on if anybody wants to organise one. Oh ya cooks your dead to me for saying that.

[minto]

Dont worry dudes.. Theres far bigger shit going on than any of us can imagine, galactical shit. This stuffs effecting everyone on the planet and making everyone pissed off and stressed and tbh, its no bloody wonder.

We have allowed ourselfs to be taken over by tyrnanical governments who supress the populations.. Its no wonder everyone's freaking out every day.

Drifting should be used as an escape. Always. .
Never, the reason FOR the additional stresses.

As I said, forums die with seasons usually. Does not mean Drifting has stopped, died or even slowed down. Some dudes are out all the time.

[Diarmuid]

Glad I didn't ask about the water charges.

[LarZ]

The reason i strated this thread was to see how much interest and what events and practice days were still out there. With a view to getting another car.
I sold my car long ago to fund wedding and the price of running a baby is alot more expensive than a car. So hence no car no interest.

Yes i have been on site along time ago and with little posts. I dont feel the need to post about somethinf unless i have to. Nor is post counts something that intrests me. Seems for some the more posts you have the more of a say and rite you are. I dont know where you get the idea i push people around?


I Have orginised practice sessions and with out linning my pocket. All this was done before the site crashed in 08/09. all data lost. so new site started from scratch..

I would love to be in a posistion to organise sessions and the likes. And not for money either. The last few years it was not possible. Family and work commements. Due to my work i now have a greater insite to how bussiness work and operate. If And only if i put car on track. Then ya i would do my best to organise something. And never for profit.

As regards my comments to Dave Daly i have sent him a Private message and in that message i did apollogise to him. We all see red from time to time. And everday is not always roses for everyone.

Sorry if you think i am the one giving the scene a bad name. And i talking about Track drifting. Not on the streets. Is was never my intention.

My reference to the judging i have made clear many many times. And reference to when and why. So on that point i stand firm.

I am all for people making an effort for the sport. I do know what a sacrafice it takes to put a car on the track. So from that point refrence builds and stuff i would encourage rather than discourage a person.

Like you me and everyone here we are all entitled to our options. And at end of the day that is all there are. Some people take it to heart some dont..

Besides this the most activity site seen in while ..

No negativity expresed in this post.

This is like a completely different person wrote it, and you probably wouldn't have gotten as frosty a reception if you had reacted to D.Daly's nonsensical drunk posts in a similar way There's a huge difference between what a person says and what they mean and it got lost in translation, as you know yourself. You just came across as dismissive and i'm glad i gave you the benefit of the doubt in my post because it does appear that you're genuinely interested in this topic and the future of the sport from what i have just read.

I think it's fair enough to get this thread back on track now as I think everyone is on the same page again.

It's one thing organising a practice day now, but you need to commit to having numbers as otherwise you could end up making a loss... personally, if I was organising the days i'd be damn sure to build in some bit of profit so that i can make the days better, get better marshals and protect my pocket if for some reason i don't get the numbers for a practice day. But i do know what you're saying. It's just risky is all, that's why most people don't bother with it. It can be very unrewarding too. People expect so much these days.

Organising a drinking session is all well and good, but back in the day everyone lived a lot closer together. there were smaller clusters of people. Nowadays people show up at a track with a drift car that nobody ever saw before, not knowing anybody and often even without any friends with them. They travel from all over the country so organising a drinking session is nearly impossible as the core active people on this site live all over the country. It's not only the sport which has matured, the members have too. Don't get me wrong, we love a good session but it's so hard to get people in the one place.

The sport and community are changing rapidly. We saw a surge of road cars being turned into drift cars and now we're seeing the complete opposite again.

With regard your post count. Being a member on here means welcoming new people, telling people their builds are awesome or whatever. It's about buying and selling, chit-chatting and being part of a community. I'm not saying spam the forums, but occasionally checking in would show you that there are many more threads like this one over the past few months where we discuss the future of DI.

[LarZ]

Glad I didn't ask about the water charges.

[pole drift]

In other news, No drifting isnt dead. But I can see why people arent bothering with there build threads any more as no one ever seems to bother replying to them. The site is still going, yes it might not be as busy as it used to be and it would be great to see some build threads for the guys that are actually competing.

Dave is one of the nicest guys around, he's just having the craic. Calm down there little pony!!

[Davy]

There's a lot of interesting points being made. In my own opinion, its not only the cost or even the time. I have a skyline in the shed that I bought after buying a house. It was something I always aimed for, to have the "weekend car" and I would love to do a few track days once in a while but I would feel out of place as the most experience I have is a bit of messing, which is frowned upon in general. So where is the first step in putting what you want to keep as a road car out on track for a bit of fun without spending a fortune?
Im sure there is more interest in the country than what is being exploited at the minute. The problem is where to go. If there were more places to go, there would be less messing on the roads (Captain obvious!!)

[AEf20c]

Whats the story with white river in collen? Anyone ever try them?
I remember they had an event a couple of years ago.
http://www.whiteriver.ie/gallery/aerial-photos/

[pole drift]

Whats the story with white river in collen? Anyone ever try them?
I remember they had an event a couple of years ago.
http://www.whiteriver.ie/gallery/aerial-photos/

From what I heard the track is too narrow in places