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    Quote Originally Posted by robbie@tdp.ie View Post
    Mapping a car properly takes quite a while. The quickest car to map would be a NA on ITBS and that normally takes 3+ hours to do properly.

    A turbo car on AFM's and Power FC would take us 3-4 hours on the dyno to be sure it right. Doing the part throttle and light load is very time consuming. Its very easy to tune the full throttle for power. But getting the afr and timing right at 30-60% throttle on a drift car when the trubo is surging is not easy at all.

    If its a car that i have mapped before and it hasnt had major parts changed then probally 2 hours.

    The main thing is that you need to keep the tempratures constant and to my knoweledge no one has better cooling for there dyno than we do. It still takes us a while on a turbo car to let it settle to the same tempratures for each and every run.

    I personally would not like to try and map 5+ cars I have never seen before in a day.

    In the end of the day its all down to personal preference.

    I still think that the clain on the std evo is pure BS.

    Robbie
    In fairness it dose seem a bit sketchy...... Say if it takes you 4 hours to map a car and if you were to map 5 cars in a day it'd take you 20 hours..... And thats provided theres no hiccups along the way.......


    Say this lad starts at 8 and finishes at 7...... Now thats 11 hours without a break....... Thats half the time it'd take you robbie........ Basically 2 hours a car....... Can this be done people and you think by the time he maps the last car he'd be gee eyed.........

    But at the end of the day iv heard nothing but good about this man so il'l give him a shot...... And at the end of the day if he dose pull it off....... Well......




    It'l be like a blind prostatute..........

    Ya have to hand it to her........


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    not every car takes 4 hours to map. you'd be daft to believe that.
    my car was mapped in all of an hour. map loaded, tweeked, then monitored and tweeked a little more out oon the road.
    job done.
    and has been flying ever since.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan B. View Post
    not every car takes 4 hours to map. you'd be daft to believe that.
    my car was mapped in all of an hour. map loaded, tweeked, then monitored and tweeked a little more out oon the road.
    job done.
    and has been flying ever since.
    So what your saying is its not mapping. Its uploading a map form another engine / car and then messing with it abit. This is not mapping...or anything like it.

    Proper mapping tunes every fuel and Ing site for all load conditions and RPM's. As well as tuning all the compensations maps for air / coolant temps. This can be done on any engine in an hour let alone 2 hours. Especially on a rolling road as the tires would melt.

    Robbie


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    Quote Originally Posted by Robbie Daly Ps13 View Post
    In fairness it dose seem a bit sketchy...... Say if it takes you 4 hours to map a car and if you were to map 5 cars in a day it'd take you 20 hours..... And thats provided theres no hiccups along the way.......


    Say this lad starts at 8 and finishes at 7...... Now thats 11 hours without a break....... Thats half the time it'd take you robbie........ Basically 2 hours a car....... Can this be done people and you think by the time he maps the last car he'd be gee eyed.........

    But at the end of the day iv heard nothing but good about this man so il'l give him a shot...... And at the end of the day if he dose pull it off....... Well......




    It'l be like a blind prostatute..........

    Ya have to hand it to her........
    What about the setup rip down time ?

    Robbie


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    Quote Originally Posted by robbie@tdp.ie View Post
    What about the setup rip down time ?

    Robbie
    How long dose that take.......?


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    Quote Originally Posted by robbie@tdp.ie View Post
    So what your saying is its not mapping. Its uploading a map form another engine / car and then messing with it abit. This is not mapping...or anything like it.

    Proper mapping tunes every fuel and Ing site for all load conditions and RPM's. As well as tuning all the compensations maps for air / coolant temps. This can be done on any engine in an hour let alone 2 hours. Especially on a rolling road as the tires would melt.

    Robbie
    it's uploading a map you've developed ahead of time and tweeking it to suit the car.

    of course if you're mapping from scratch on a blank ecu etc it will take alot longer, but i doubt thats what any of these cars will be.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan B. View Post
    it's uploading a map you've developed ahead of time and tweeking it to suit the car.

    of course if you're mapping from scratch on a blank ecu etc it will take alot longer, but i doubt thats what any of these cars will be.
    i wouldn be into that now ! all these fellas go on about how much time they spend on a car doing a CUSTOM ! map and have the cheek to charge ya ha makes ye laugh ! have to agree wit ur man tdp id want it started from scratch time spent working on the car not talking pony please enlighten me if im wrong and that tweaking another uploaded map is how its done as im just learning


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    the map wasnt got from revo and just uploaded, thats not what i mean.

    chap that done my car develops his own maps and knows exactly what he's doing.
    spends alot of time trying out differant things and mapping for differant fuels etc.
    it's not a case of plug in hit go and walk away and thats it.
    it's not some monkey with a laptop buying maps from another company that doesnt know what he's at.


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    and what happens if some1 comes in with a car that needs a complete custom map due to how extreme the mods are on the car and a download map wont do

    triple k all the way
    sideways mary the bed is narrow

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    Toys out of pram comes to mind in this thread

    Steves website shows plenty of video footage of a lot of what he's done and figures, i think the proof is there to be seen regardless of his "behind the scene" way of working.

    This guys mapping the last 10years or more and has a FLAWLESS reputation throughout the UK and Europe (that ive found out anyway) Garage-D use him along with Driftworks, yes he must be crap


 

 

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