front camber

[skinnynphats200]

What is the benefits of having less or more camber on the front? How does it affect steering response, feedback, lock etc?

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[chrisb]

its all down to contact patch of the tyre when on lock.

the more camber you run the more angle you will be on when the max contact patch is being used.

the wheels when on lock tend to want to be on max contact patch. ie if you are running modded hubs etc for crazy lock and run stupid amounts of camber the car will naturally want to go to full lock and not many people have the ability to drive a car on full lock all of the time, you want it set so its about 3/4 of the angle which for me is 4 degrees

[skinnynphats200]

its all down to contact patch of the tyre when on lock.

the more camber you run the more angle you will be on when the max contact patch is being used.

the wheels when on lock tend to want to be on max contact patch. ie if you are running modded hubs etc for crazy lock and run stupid amounts of camber the car will naturally want to go to full lock and not many people have the ability to drive a car on full lock all of the time, you want it set so its about 3/4 of the angle which for me is 4 degrees

So basically the more camber you run on the front the quicker the feedback of the steering alowing for faster transitions?!

What exactly do you mean by 3/4 of the angle?

[chrisb]

no the more caster you run the quicker the feedback, but you can also have too much ase well

3/4 angle/lock simply that - from when the wheels are pointing straight to full lock in one direction count that as 100%. now if you turn your wheels to they are at 75% then you still have 25% of the lock left. (this is harder to explain than i thought lol)

the camber of the front wheels is all about the contact patch the tyre has with the road when the car is on angle or lock. if you run a crazy amount of camber so that the wheels are on full lock (100%) when the tyre is getting max contact with the road then the steering tends to go to that position

so if you run less camber so that at 75% of you achievable angle/lock the tyres contact patch is at its max the steeing will be smooth when at this angle (which is were you need to be to maximise speed threw corners etc, because crazy angles = slower forward speeds)

is not an issue having lots of camber it will just mean you will have to hold the steering at 75%angle/ lock instead of it naturally staying there itself

rather hard to explain but i hope ive got it accross in some way lol

[skinnynphats200]

no the more caster you run the quicker the feedback, but you can also have too much ase well

3/4 angle/lock simply that - from when the wheels are pointing straight to full lock in one direction count that as 100%. now if you turn your wheels to they are at 75% then you still have 25% of the lock left. (this is harder to explain than i thought lol)

the camber of the front wheels is all about the contact patch the tyre has with the road when the car is on angle or lock. if you run a crazy amount of camber so that the wheels are on full lock (100%) when the tyre is getting max contact with the road then the steering tends to go to that position

so if you run less camber so that at 75% of you achievable angle/lock the tyres contact patch is at its max the steeing will be smooth when at this angle (which is were you need to be to maximise speed threw corners etc, because crazy angles = slower forward speeds)

is not an issue having lots of camber it will just mean you will have to hold the steering at 75%angle/ lock instead of it naturally staying there itself

rather hard to explain but i hope ive got it accross in some way lol

Yes I understand now, you want max contact patch/grip at 75% of lock so that you can get the balance right between your angle and your speed through the corners because more angle = less speed, and also the car naturally staying at say, 75% with less camber, rather than trying to hold the steering in that position with more camber. Thanks dude!

[Taffy]

i am running 6 but i know some one who is running 8.5 and doing well on it to

[podge]

right to get back to this topic and to bump it with a quick and rough set up heres is the camber im running to fit under the front arches

with this set up by eye and roughly from lock to lock and hitting the anti roll bars and tension rods on each side ive to full turns of the steering wheel lock to lock at this ive also moved the tension rods in more and the anto roll bars modified front anti roll bars etc
so far this set up has being tried and tested on a s14 and ps13 and is working good from feed back i am hearing with the only complaint so far is the wheels locking when it hits the anto roll bar and tension rod which is supposly not much so maybe bump stops would cure this
few more pics of mine atm not fully set up