Spraying my S14 from Home - HELP!!!

[kevy-s13]

So, Ive a marlin blue s14 and its in fairly sweet condition with few dents if any. Thing is, i really want to respray it myself as spraying is something ive been into and so i'd like to take the time to work on it myself and do a good job on it.

Im not worried about respraying the inside of the car the same as the outside so would just really want the inside door sills to match when the door is opened. lol

CAN ANYONE WHO KNOWS WHAT THEYRE ON ABOUT be able to give me a fair idea on what to do with prep/paint from start to finish? I was thinking of masking up the engine bay and removing the front and rear bumpers etc and spraying them separately to the car but really havent a notion if this is what i should be doing? lol
Ive also got limited knowledge of what materials i'll need so if yas can help me with this also....

I have a cleaned garage where i will wet the floor and use a compressor but any tips you can give me would be greatly appreciated as this will be a tramp/budget spec build but want it looking a million dollars! lol

Was thinking of going gloss black as im not sure if metallic black is any harder to spray but would be open to any colour ideas and suggestions. Im also going to be fitting +25mm (or maybe +40mm front fenders) and +50mm rear overfenders but im pretty aware of what fitting them involves with cutting the rear arches and rivetting etc.


i'll be sure to do a photographed build of my work so yas can see how i get on if you're interested.

Once again, any help will be most appreciated so thanks in advance.

[dR Dan]

Well lad...
If your going repairing those dents u'l need to sand down the damaged area and just around it with p80 grit sandpaper.
Then apply the filler evenly, Mixing filler is basically a golf ball of filler to a pea of hardener.
Sand this with 80 grit and repeat the filler process until u'v a desired finish.
Before primer rub it down again with p180 and then p240 as this will remove any deep scratches.
Rub down around the filler area aswell with p240.
Mask around the primed areas but not too close to the filler as priming onto the masking tape will leave an edge which is a cunt to rub down after.
Once filler has dried get a bucket of water and p800 wet and dry sandpaper and start rubbin the filler until its smooth, U shuldnt be able to feel where the primer ends and old paint starts, If u have a sanding block use it as itl remove remove waves if used right.
Uv a few options then for rubbing down the rest of the car id just get a tub of blend prep and a good lenght of Grey scotch pad and again ur bucket of water... And just basically rub the shit outta the whole car until all shiny surfaces are matt.
Remove bumpers and skirts etc.
Mask up what u need to mask on the car and paint on.
For paint id recommend going clear over base.
Basically get your colour base (gloss black) ans ul need to put on prob 3- 4 coats.... Leaving time between each coat to dry fully.
Get a regulator for the end of ur gun and ul b sprayin at a tad over 2 bar pressure.
Next ul need about 3 coats of laquor, raise ur pressure a tad and read the instructions on ur laquor tin ( most have different methods for painting)
Id recommend Max Meyer where ud apply 2 40 per cent coats leavin about 10 mins between coats and then an 80 per cent coat to get ur desired finish.

I could go on and on but im boring myself any more particular questions just ask and il try help.

Every panel basher has different methods and these are just mine.

[kevy-s13]

cheers for the advice man. few more questions if thats okay:

> when rubbing down, can i use a buffing wheel with some sort of emry paper on it to save me time instead of rubbing down by hand or is it better to just go by hand?

> before painting, once the car is fully rubbed down, do i need to prime the whole car before adding my first paint coat or is it okay to just paint over the car as long as it's been rubbed down all over?

> do i need to emry between any paint coats or anything??

thanks again

[dR Dan]

cheers for the advice man. few more questions if thats okay:

> when rubbing down, can i use a buffing wheel with some sort of emry paper on it to save me time instead of rubbing down by hand or is it better to just go by hand?

> before painting, once the car is fully rubbed down, do i need to prime the whole car before adding my first paint coat or is it okay to just paint over the car as long as it's been rubbed down all over?

> do i need to emry between any paint coats or anything??

thanks again

Ya u can rub it down with a sander no problem... 800 r even 1000 grit but jst be just go easy on the edges cas itl burn through to metal very easily and its not a great idea to paint onto metal...

No u dont need to pime the whole car, if the panels are straight and theres no othe ramage paint on over the old paint...

No u dnt... If u get bits of dirt in the base coat leave it fully dry and give it a light rub of 600 r 800 dry and paint on over again...

If theres dirt in the laquor it can be flatted out after when fully dry with 2000 grit paper and polished back up to a good shine after.

[kevy-s13]

brilliant mate....thanks

oh actually....with regards to actually painting the car when its sitting there primed and prepped....what tips would you give me on spraying? like....start at the roof and work downwards around the windscreens with the doors off to do a base coat all over and on the inside door sills etc?

then would i leave it to dry, then fit the doors and bumpers, bodykit etc and do an all over spray for the final few coats?

Just dont know whether to spray the doors and bumpers completely separately then fit them all once the final spray is complete - will all the panels match if i do this?

Any tips on hardener???

[doyler]

be handy if sum1 set up a bif of crash course for resprayin cars

[twin-cam85]

spray all the doors and kit on there own and then fit to the car

[dR Dan]

brilliant mate....thanks

oh actually....with regards to actually painting the car when its sitting there primed and prepped....what tips would you give me on spraying? like....start at the roof and work downwards around the windscreens with the doors off to do a base coat all over and on the inside door sills etc?

then would i leave it to dry, then fit the doors and bumpers, bodykit etc and do an all over spray for the final few coats?

Just dont know whether to spray the doors and bumpers completely separately then fit them all once the final spray is complete - will all the panels match if i do this?

Any tips on hardener???

Well if u want to paint in around the door id paint this first... As in rub it down, open the door and just paint it.

This can be done before the whole outside of the car is prepped.

Once its dry u jst close the door and rub down down whole car as said above and the off spray that lands on the quarter, sill etc. will be rubbed down smooth while your doing the whole car.

Id paint all the Kit off the car, Once its the same pot of paint and you apply the same ammount of coats it will be perfect.

Whatever laquor you get will have a hardener with it and it'l tell u the maixing ratio and whether it needs thinners.

[dR Dan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0r9WPw-Ov8

Heres a handy link for doing the jams... You can see offspray etc is landing on the quarters, wings etc but before you paint the rest of the car you'l be rubbing down this offspray.

[kevy-s13]

Well if u want to paint in around the door id paint this first... As in rub it down, open the door and just paint it.

This can be done before the whole outside of the car is prepped.

Once its dry u jst close the door and rub down down whole car as said above and the off spray that lands on the quarter, sill etc. will be rubbed down smooth while your doing the whole car.

Id paint all the Kit off the car, Once its the same pot of paint and you apply the same ammount of coats it will be perfect.

Whatever laquor you get will have a hardener with it and it'l tell u the maixing ratio and whether it needs thinners.

AHHH BRILLIANT! thats the plan then! think i know everything now that should need doing!
I will get started as soon as i can afford materials! lol