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What do I need to do it besides the harness itself? I dont have the car here so I cant have a dig about.
Am I right in saying there are points to attach the points to, but are currently bolts that I replace with eye bolts? Like under the back seat somewhere and on each side of the seat or the rail?) If so where in Dublin would I get eye bolts?
Many thanks in advance
Its simple lad..........Pure self explanertry.........Murry motorsport is probally your handyist option...........I was only up there nyself today getting a bit of racewear.....!
:confused: Am I missing the explantion here??Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbie Daly Ps13
If you mean eyebolts can be got there, then by any chance is there anywhere on the northside that might sell them?
iv just bolted mine to the side of the seat and there the receiver for the back seats are bolted to.
has your harness got steel plates like the silver ones here?
http://www.speedzonemotorsports.com/...mlockspoon.jpg
the eyebolts fit in any holes that the seat belt bolts were,there will be two on each side on the rear floor under the rear seat and you can get the eyebolts at any motorsport shop murray,ears driftworks etc
i didn't use eyebolts just a regular bolt straight into the floor
Ok cool, ill rip up the seat and ave a luke so. Ive these exact belts and the clips are like soQuote:
Originally Posted by s13-ste
http://www.jd-racing.fr/images/2-6.jpg
Dare I say it Proparts? :o Ill go look cos they are close by. If i can get some and maybe have a go at the weekendQuote:
Originally Posted by lsd32
thanks lads
the eyebolts would deffo suit those belts better as you can clip them on and off,straight bolts would damage the clips
go with bolts lad.. they only a couple of quid
You think? I'll call local and see about eyebolts and if they are a pain in the hole to get ill just bolt the fuckers in
Thanks again!
have same harness, use eye bolts
Yes boss :p
yeah after seeing them clips id say use eyebolts!
if ever fitting a harness with standard seats the sidestraps should be ran through the bottom of the back of the seat and not around the outside of the seat, keeps ya in if you get a good smack! :D
Very dangerous. A must is to use eyebolts. In the case of an accident there is a good chance that the bolts will just shear off. For the price of them anyway I'd definately recommend to get some eyebolts.Quote:
Originally Posted by s13-ste
Here is the seat and the harness. Just sitting on it to see what it looked likeQuote:
Originally Posted by Livewire 78
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a59...1/322eb035.jpg
The way it is there, is that safe enough?
Yea was thinking the same myself, and given the clip is just that then bolting it wouldnt workQuote:
Originally Posted by Trixta
Whats very important is the angle of the harness too. If it goes down too steepily at the back of your seat (cant see in pic) then in an accident it will effectively push down on your shoulders and crush down on your back.
Yea been hearing about the whole 30 degree business. With it not having a cage it will have to be bolted to the arse of the back seat I guess? But as far back as possible to make the angle bigger if thats possible (obviously not bolted to the floor behind the seat)Quote:
Originally Posted by Trixta
jus pull up the bench part the back seat an bolt it to where the rear seatbelt clips are for ur shouldler straps an the back two bolts on ur seat for the lap strap if ya get me...do wat livewire said tho run it down through the back of the seat instead of around it if you can it'll hold u in place alot better
lol its litterally taken me 5 attempts at reading yours and livewires posts to figure out what you meant! So you mean the shoulder straps should go from the drivers seat to the top of the back seat then down the back of it to the eye bolt? Would that not make it weaker in that it there was a crash a sudden jolt just has to disloge the back seat and ive an extra foot of harness to play with?Quote:
Originally Posted by way2fastforu
Livewire's idea is to runt he belts from the drivers seat to the eyebolt via underneath the rear seat? Would that not make the angle of the belts too much in the event of a crash? Should they not be less than 30 degrees from horizontal?
Or am i totally off the mark??
no no i dont mean put it over the back seat an down to the bolts...wat i mean is take out the bench part of your back seat(the bit your arse sits on) an under that u have the holsters that ur back seat belts clip into take them out an bolt the shoulder straps to there...so its comin over your shoulder an over your seat an down to where the bolsters are...get me now??
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I get you now! and then can i refit the arse of the back seat?
i think (not sure) the manufacturers recommend 45 degree for the shoulder straps but in my cars i have to run them straight down the floor behind the seat.
i also never have used eyes and taken some huge hits and never broke anything on the harness, good m12 bolt and some decent washers. if i were putting a harness in a drifter if use some eyes though as its not as butchered looking!
think you have the side straps figured out now?not the way they are in the pic anyway...
ya you could if you can get the 2 harness straps thro the hole where the bolsters comes up through the seat but obviously nobody would be able to sit behind you in the carQuote:
Originally Posted by Fredericks Balls
Awwww man now you have me conflusted lol :oQuote:
Originally Posted by Livewire 78
Whats up with them in the pic? I know the buckle needs to sit further down, and the belts maybe the wrong way around or something but the route they take is ok isnt it?
I would have thought the 30degree thing is for people who's shoulders come higher than the belt holes in the seat, and mine dont im sure. Anyway ill try for as high as possible.
he means to stick them down under the back rest part of the seat where it meets the bit ur arse is on..that way its comin up through the seat an around you an not around the seat and you...it'll hold you tighter that way
wat he's on bout is runnin the lap strap down thro were i circled in red on seat in the pic instead of round the seat
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/v...5032010462.jpg
Rather than around the outside of the frame (looks silver in that pic)??
bingo!!
il take a picture of my harness later on when the car is home!
but ya have it now :D
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Yay only took 3 pages lol
Thanks lads!
Ha!!!:D Also to try and further complicate this............I'd advise crossing the harness aswell. What I mean is that the left shoulder strap should mount to the right rear mounting point, and the right shoulder strap should mount to the left rear mounting point. I.e. after coming out the holes at the top of your seat they should cross across each other forming a sort of X on their way to the mounting points. I dont think this is vital but it is recommended as far as I know if the length from seat to mounting point is greater than 50cm.
http://www.takataracingproducts.com/...mages/r6_c.jpg
Basically here is a good guide to fitting. And I personally wouldnt be a fan of putting the waist belts in the position as the other lads have mentioned above, whereby they go back throught he seat.
http://www.takataracingproducts.com/guide.html
Ok sweet ill have a look at that, cheers!
Ill see about the waist straps, because as it is the seat is fairly tight anyway...
Got the car back today so had a look and took about 6 seconds to suss it out! There are two big bolts holding the rail to the floor, they are the only thing to replace with an eyebolt, and they look spot on for the lap belts.
There is no metal brackets like that pic but the belts would have to go like the pic i put up, theres no hope of the belts going behind inside the seat. Its tighter then a twelve year old, i have to empty my pockets when i get in or ill get stabbed in the leg!
I pulled up the rear seat and there are two points, so ill cross the belts and bolt onto them.
Thanks again for the help!