c250td project

Hello, finaly found a car suitable to have abit of practice in. Had money saved for a lexus is200, was all set on one untill a chap in work said he knew where there was a c250td forsale, went and looked at it yesturday and brought it home today, not many photo's, will get more when more work starts happening

its a merc c250td, completely standard, mot till may, no tax, and needs a rear subframe as its cracked, got it for £250 so cant complain
engine runs like new, and pulls right and well aswell, manual, full electrics, pity its green but lol
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have tracked down a subframe just gotta go pick it up, so starting to take the old one out now
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thats all for now, while the subframes out gonna weld the diff and see how well she goes

I'd imagine its absolutely dead no?! Or you planning big turbo etc?

There actually not to bad like 150bhp and 200 torque, maybe its non turbo your thinking of?

yeh its about 150bhp, and 100kg heavier than a 325tds, so should go alright, it will be tunned at sometime, but gonna get abit of experience first, as this is my first rwd road car

picked up a subframe for it today, just waiting on new bushes getting here and i can start to build it all up again, didnt get any photo's but will get some up tomorrow

I have a sport c250 myself, i think they are a grand yoke.
Defiantly wouldn't call them slow.:cool:

Aye it should go alright
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Got the new subframe, should have the old one out shortly, just waiting on new bushes

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finaly got the rear subframe out, didnt go easy

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and the reason its getting a new subframe, its just a slight crack

Bit of glue Would sort that :-) will they slide easily?

ah i was thinking a couple of cable ties lol

it should do, pretty much the same as a 325 tds, only this has a manual inline pump, so easy to get more power out of

managed to get abit more done on this, never again do i want to do subframe bush's on these things, pain in the arse is an understatement. Have finaly got 4 new bushes into a badly painted subframe, and the diff is welded and ready to go back in, should all be bolted back on next weekend, after the arms and driveshafts see paint aswell, keep mot men happy later on in the year

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how the subframe sits compared to the old one

Nice one

I run one of them engines to 3.3bar of boost. They are some engine.

is that yours on youutbe with the deiselmekhin pump on it?

they are a real good engine, been playing about with bosch ve pumps, changing internals and govenors so figured it was time i started playing with an inline pump

yea, this one, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GITi-n9ZTU

you will have the electronic inline pump, i managed 368bhp on it with my diy pump with 7.5mm plungers. rpm was a restriction at 5500rpm

you can add a potentiometer to pump wiring harness for more fuel on standard pump.

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Originally Posted by mantahead

yea, this one, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GITi-n9ZTU

you will have the electronic inline pump, i managed 368bhp on it with my diy pump with 7.5mm plungers. rpm was a restriction at 5500rpm

you can add a potentiometer to pump wiring harness for more fuel on standard pump.

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that yoke is fuken insane i love it ha ha

yeh that car is insane, i take it the pumps are semi ecu controlled, bit like a 406, still manual throttle etc, but advance and governors are ecu controlled, as there doesn't seem to be many wires near the pump itself, also doesn't appear to have a maf sensor, its usaly beside the airbox but mines just pipe

haven't looked to closely in below the bonnet but, will get a better look tomorrow after work

hi,

throttle and governor all controlled by ecu, the rack is pushed forward with a solenoid all controlled by pwm signals from ecu.

your pump will have 6mm elements but if you change to standard old skool mechanical pump it only has 5.5mm elements.

i see, will have to figure out where to put a potentiometer onto it

got the back axle striped, passenger side came apart no bother, drivers side has 2 bolts stuck in bushes, going to try get them out tomorrow night, and get two bushes replaced for the bottom arms as they are completely shot on both sides

and then she is ready for the road

well i have finaly got abit of decent work done to the car

rear subframe is finaly ready to be bolted back onto the car, couple new arms and bushes, 4 new main subframe bushes and the diff has been welded, some night this week when its dry gonna get it into her and see how she goes
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have also bought a hydraulic handbrake and a set of wheels from a mate, hoping to have it on the road this weekend

well im glad to say its all back together and running. Had bother with it not starting, wasnt picking diesel up from the tank, turn'd out to be a dodgy o-ring on the pre filter. New o-ring and its starting and running like a new car again.

had it out a test drive, driving 100%, few wee things need looked at, brakes after sitting for 6 months wudnt really stop you in a hurry, and need to connect up the handbrake, other than that she is going well

getting it took of temp insurance and swapping it with the toledo, cant afford to keep both

and lastly a photo of it beside the brothers b, project
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have done abit more work but most of it is just fixing wee annoying bits and pieces, done away with the SLS system in it, as it was rock hard at the back, and when i went to lower it, it always raised itself back up again. Also have 5 new heater plugs coming as 2 of them have decided to pack up this week

on other news, got new wheels and lowered it, needs two rear droplinks then i can start on getting it ready for a drift day
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since im still waiting for a few more bits to arrive, couple of us sprayed the merc this weekend
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satin black and looks a hell of alot better imo

got all the wiring sorted out this weekend, first off sorted out the windows, was really pissing me off that only the rear two worked, and drivers only went down an inch

got the trim below the front lights sprayed black, rear spoiler is in primer and will be sprayed black shortly, and got the merc badge on the back of her again.

she was pron to heating abit when it was sideways, so the two front fans are now wired into 2 swtichs, also got a resistor and switch wired into the pump wiring, it now has a nice wee puff of black smoke, and is loving 3rd gear now, before it was just fit to mange 3rd
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nothing exciting to photograph as its mostly wiring, but quiet pleased with the switch panel

so not much has happened with this really, drove it about, burst every weld on the old diff, all gears are ok and was still driving, just didnt feel right, only one i could get was a longer ratio one out of a c220cdi, didnt bother welding it, looking for either another 250td one or a petrol diff. not sure about chancing welding the old one again.

car has a fresh years mot on it, failed first time on a low headlight, easily sorted, came out of mot on a thursday, following monday i put coilovers into it
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was undriveable so put the adjusters into the front so i could turn again

only other thing ive done is straight pipe it, no photo's of it on the car but made this tail piece to replace the backbox
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currently working out how to map it, not paying 240 when the car cost me 250, its not as easy on these as the ecu chips are soldered onto the ecu, so will need to get holders and the right chips, solder the holders onto the ecu and i can remove the chips to map them. hopefully next couple of weeks will have it running a map

will be getting spacers made in work, custom ones to the size i want, 60mm at the rear and 20mm at the front, hub centeric and steel, have bad memory of aluminum ones, joys of working in a engineering shop with cnc machines

got abit of work done tonight still waiting on the lathe boys in work to turn my spacers, hopefully next week ill have them home

first got rid of the egr and cleaned the intakes
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next was trying to cure my overheating issues, so aircon rad has been removed, was fucked anyway, pump is still in place but will sort that out another time, put the twin fans back in just incase it does start to heat, also blew out the rad, the about of shite that came out of it was unreal,
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and just to help the looks, all the purple is gone and the chrome is back, looks better imo, got bored of the purple very quickly
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currently its running on about 4 1/2 cylinders, one of the pre chambers has come loose, should hopefully have the tools needed for that tomorrow, and get the diff welded tomorrow aswell

didn't manage to get the diff welded today, spent this morning putting my brother 323 back together, then got the merc running on all 5 cylinders again, took it a good run and its not lifting the temperature hand either, success

also got my hydro mounted, needs connected up but forgot to get t pieces on friday
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finaly got my spacers made, big thanks to a work mate who started after work to finish turning the last one so i could machine it

started with these after they where turned
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alot of this happened
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and ended up with these, 60mm for the rear and 20mm for the front
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a mates coming over this weekend, going to get the hydro handbrake working and the diff back into it, hopefully if i get the bolts spacers will be on aswell

Daecent.. liking the spscers.. more of that!

got a spacer on one side today, safe to say its gonna be wide

arch has been pulled, its resting on its suspension and moving, clearing atm but needs abit more work before it goes on the road

also really need to get rid of the 55 profile tyres, and give the car a good wash

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bit more work done past couple of days, new mintex disc's and pad's all round, fronts where warped and rears where done, also rebuilt my two rear calipers, with 2 new bleed nipples, got them bleed up right and the handbrake is alot firmer now, haven't tried it but it should lock now
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then set about fitting two more gauges, water temp and exhaust gas temp gauges
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water temp sender

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exhaust gas temp sender, excuse the dodgy welding, it wouldn't weld for me at all, but its sealing so all's good

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the three gauges, water temp, egt and boost, in 3 new pod's

diff is welded just not in the car yet, need to test drive it with the spacers on to make sure they are ok, so tomorrow ill get the spacers on, hopefully tyres and have it out of the shed for first time in a week

Front spacers didnt fit, the middle bit of the front hub sticks out about 30mm, 5mm or so is 66.6mm, then goes down to 63.2 for about 20mm, problem was i made the spacers 66.6mm for 14mm, then went down to 50mm. joys of having a lathe at home, threw them up to it, clocked them and now they fit
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spacer that fits vs the first attempt
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and bang it fits perfectly

all spacers now bolted and torqued up, getting tyres tomorrow and this will be on the road again

cool man. keep up the good work.

cheers eoin

finaly have it back on 4 wheels and moving again, took most of this moring to get it moving without tearing the rear tyres to bits, but as hard as i can drive it now it doesnt touch the tyres, few photos as it sits, still in need of a wash
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and the handbrake is locking up now aswell, both wheels lock solid and straight away, and have the breather system back on it again so no more oil flying about the enginebay

my turbo and pump have arrived, a gt35 and a manual pump off a om602, waiting for the bits to get the pump built
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so as off friday it is off the road, have an old xsara estate to run about in, means i can now get this thing built without worrying about driving it everyday, will be entering ni drift ama next year

have got abit more done to this recently, now have it fully striped inside, wiring and all is gone, going to wire in just what is needed, as its goin back to a manual pump it wont need alot, also got the turbo mounted today, its a tight squeeze in there
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going to be starting on some of the wiring this week, going to make a new loom for it as it seems the easiest way todo it

finaly got abit more done, have the manifold adaptor completely finished, going to skim both flanges in work, also have the egt sensor fitted, downpipe is started, but cant go any further until i get the standard exhaust off, and have the oil feed pipe done
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fuel pump is very nearly finished, hope to get it mounted over the christmas holidays, also got a intercooler, it was cheap so will do untill i get a bigger one
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its about time i updated this

finaly got the car built, lot of boring stuff, wiring and all dont need photos of that, entered the ni drift ama last year, round 1 went better than expected with a slipping clutch and barely a handbrake managed to qualify, first ever battle and lost it, no surprise there though

so after the first round i managed to piece together bits of clutches from other cars, and got it to hold. Took it out for a test the weekend before round 2, came back home from it happy the clutch would hold and it did. Also in that week i sorted out abit of extra lock and camber, car handled alot better at the front. Also put a 6 speed box into it along with the clutch, massive improvement over the c250's standard box

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round 2 i managed to quaify 24th. Considering i missed the saturday practice day due to the car not being ready i was happy. didnt have to battle for the last 8 places in top 32. But on my lead run in top 32 i had a puncture, ran to wide and got knocked out.
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love that photo from round 2 but

So for round 3 i decided id go all out and sorted a very loose rear end, now consists of a fully rose jointed rear and grips really well, which did catch me out at round 3's practice day
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sandblasted sub frame thanks to my sponser TJC powder coating

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all painted

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and all back into the car

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i also had a slight problem with a rotten front spring mount, thats sorted and both sides are now strengthed

then onto the practice day for round 3. It didnt go to plan. On my third run out i clipped a wall with the back end, smashed a tail light and abit of a dent, nothing to major, the last run i got was the last for a good reason. When chasing i was to close at the wrong time, when he transision'd he cliped my front wing and i met the wall again, head on in 3rd gear this time, my fault though.

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Damage looked worse than it was, Burst oil cooler, broke a bottom arm and bent a wing badly, few mates, the ole boy and me worked to 11 that night and went back out on sunday. It pissed down with rain in qualifying, big turbo(and a big lack of skill) meant i didnt qualify, but was still good fun.
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Then with round 4 coming up at the end of the month and a bent front end, nothing else for it but cut it all off and start again
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yeh so its abit shorter and getting a bash bar
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and how it sits now just waiting to be welded back together

got it all back together, clutch is now holding in 4th, with a 3.1:1 diff and rose jointed rear i think it will do, and front end looks alot tidier than before
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have done other bits and pieces but no photos.

also a couple of videos, first is from round 1 practice day against a supercharged 323, second is from round 2 and was my best qualifying run, gearing was to short but live and learn

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After round 4 took the car to a local track the follow week, no oil cooler and didnt change oil, it run the bottom end, the old engine done well for 220k miles, so the car is now stripped completely and on a spit, alot of changes to be made and probaly miss most of this year, including a fully rebuilt engine, proper manifold and hopefully a good bit less lag

because lag is killer
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Cool build,nice to see something a bit different.