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Was out in mondello saturday for the just jap drift day and found my s14 losing grip on the front tyres, it was worse at the start of the day because the track was wet but even when it dried up it still was understeering a bit on me!!
I dont really know much bout tyres so hada look at a few other lads tyres and they seem to be using semi slick type fronts but would they not be shite in the wet??
What types should a buy for the front??
Maxsports are the job. Wez in wkd supplies them
Maxsports work in wet & dry conditions.
Get the medium compound , they'll last longer & still provide plenty of grip.
X2 mine were doin the same thing and was talkin to a friend of mine who deals in tyres and was saying my tyres had just gone hard as they wore old and he had just a set of Yokohama s on his and he said they wore grand talk to him if ye did nt have the money for the max s bluesrule is his username
Better going with the likes of maxsport toyo r888 Achilles 123's nankang ns2r's any track going road tyre should help get rid of under steer
Have maxsports in stock.
225.45.17
2x fitted and balanced. 240euros
you wont believe the difference a good set of steering tyres makes.
^ And thats a fucking fact!Quote:
Originally Posted by LarZ
Im running soft compound kumho rally tyres i bought them part worn and jesus the car was completely different up front i could transition faster and get more reaction from the steering wheel. Only downside is the soft compound wears away fairly quick if your heating them up or have enough camber. So like the lads said medium compound will do you perfect.
if you wanted to keep the money down as much as possible, look for people selling part worn rally tyres. Plenty of lads taking them off the front of mk2 escorts and saying there useless when there completely fine!
this is something ive been reading up on/thinking about a while! its all about how you want to drive your car. I had bad understeer issues over the weekend in the mx5 when using the handbrake, but this suited as i wanted to just drive by flicking the car in etc.
depending on driving style and purpose of the car (ie practice day car, or fully comp car) ive seen a lot of lads runnign shit tyres on the front on purpose for the sake of being able to attempt backwards entries without being a faglord and just buying the silly lock kits!
I was told at the weekend when talking about it that when Dai was over driving the MG altezza, he was saying it had too much front end grip and wasnt allowing him to throw the car in and actually drift the car, more so do a long burnout on full lock.
This guy here has gone from running good grip tyres up front to running nankangs up front!
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All in all, I duno where im going with this. But yeh, grip isnt everything, its how you adapt to it aswell. or something
I agree with this . But 9 out of 10 guys including myself really do use the handbrake a lot espically when learning I do anyway . And found good front end grip a massive help . Can only comment on what I used but found r888,s the job .Quote:
Originally Posted by PeterT
But as Pete says if u adapt ur driving to the more Japanese style where u reli less on the hydro it'll help ur situation :-)
MX5 wouldnt go fast enough to get understeer pete hahaha
as i said before the day and will say after it....faster than the smelly nissans sitting on wands coming into corners! i guess having 2 odd tyres on the front didnt help. one being a 10 euro part worn i bought last week that only had about 2.5mm thread on it haha.
i dont think super grippy is what people should look for unless they are super anal/competing top level,I think an even grip front and rear tyres is a good idea
just check your wheel alignment. then tyres
X2 !Quote:
Originally Posted by franmk
Poor setups are why most have understeer imo.
Super grippy fronts tyres are sticking plasters for bad setups.
If the car is set up correctly you shouldnt need a different compound from front to rear.
i was using Toyo R888's which i got part worn which i couldnt get warm at all in damp condition's which made Zero cofindence plus pulling the handbrake plus why i have a big dent in my quarter panel, though in the dry there fantastic after a few laps.... Maxsports are really good for the Silvias anyway... though i think if your running really low there alot bulkyer under the arches. just depends how you drive aswel
At drift Matsuri in Wales there were a lot of super competitive top end cars there but this was the only guy doing proper Kawabata styled backwards entries, fair enough he was not as fast as most other people there but was incredible to watch.Quote:
Originally Posted by PeterT
I use the wand a lot. I'm not going to deny it lol. But good steering tyres give you better response under braking too. If i'm throwing the car sideways at 160km/h i want to know that if i get it wrong my brakes will save me (or at least try). Also, if you attack someone mid corner and they lose control I like knowing that my fronts wont be locking up.
We had a close one on saturday when I spun out in front of you in Ford Peter. If you had grippier front tyres you wouldn't have shat your pants and had that let out those big girly screams :p
haha yes exactly, i was shitting my pants at the cars behind me! but yeh, its all down to driving styles! if i spent money on a car for drift days, i know what sort of set up id be going for and it wouldnt be super grippy front end!
Get a set of federal 595s if you're on a budget, great tyre up front! Or maxsports or Hankook RS2 if you have a few bob.
I cannot stress enough that second hand or older tyres are useless! They have gone hard and you might as well be driving on a solid wheel!
^^^^i agree second hand tyres are a waste of time
I wouldn't put federal 595s on a micra I don't rate them at all.200euro will get you a pair of Maxsports in 17s mate of mine is running them on his road car for the past 8 months n/a power but they haven't gone off or gone hard the older compound Maxsports peeled quiet easily from what I have been told
And as mac_c said not getting a car handling right and using a super grippy tyre is just masking the problem and to be fair spending the 80euro on getting a car laser aligned is well worth it
Bluesrule mentioned it a good 2 yr ago use the 595's and there good even better again are the rsr I'm sure the pro lads would have a lot more opinions on it but for me they do fine it's all about your suspension set up and tyre pressures, them factors make a massive difference it's hard for street as they cool and heat up with driving but no complaints so far and I'm on a limited budget.
Would be good to see what people are using and what pressures.
I think using non grip tyres on the front is limited to the people who know how their car will react when they position it a certain way and for a driver who has little experience it would just be disaster as in no control and make them panic.
As for Backwards entry's, ye need massive amount of speed to be anyway decent and at that your exit speed is seriously hard to maintain with 300ish bhp but sure it looks cool and I might have bent a subframe trying them on rsr's but running shit tyres for the sake of it i wouldn't bother.
What the lads said about Alignment is dead right, makes a day and night difference! You need to go somewhere with a 4 wheel system, most ordinary garages wouldn't have that, where about are you from? Also have you adjustable arms?
Not going to get into it but you also need decent tyres up front if you want to get proper angles and hold it there..flicking the car into a power slide is different, I can do that in a transit ffs! Maxsport or any semi slick if you have a few Bob or else check treadwear rating on tyres in your local garage, 595s are 280 and I find them very good at 25ish psi
yup... alignment makes the world of difference too. People can't believe the grip and power of my car and i put it all down to having the right supension parts and tyres.
2ND hand 18in rally tyres here €50 each.
Any 2nd hand 15" rally tyres? 195 50''s or 205 50's??