Bolt on arches jzx100

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09-12-10, 13:02
copeyhagen

Bolt on arches jzx100

well decided to sell the ssr minervas only, gonna put the kranze's on.

dont wanna spend a grand on gettin the right camber to pull the wheel under the arch, so looking at different options.

have always been a big fan of bolt on arches.

do ya have to cut into the current arches before boltin on wider ones?

i know kieran had these ones for sale:
http://www.canibeat.com/wp-content/u...1265686928.jpg
http://www.canibeat.com/wp-content/u...1267056723.jpg
http://www.canibeat.com/wp-content/u...1267632729.jpg

my chaser has very flared arches as is, including some work on the rear door, so i dunno if i could even bolt on arches.
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/5181/chaser5.jpg

this is with the kranze as she would sit now
http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/6862/chaser8.jpg
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/6053/chaser6.jpg

what yas reckon?

rob
09-12-10, 13:05
nikkisixx69

roll/flare the arch more so the wheels wont be hitting off it then slap on the jun arches
09-12-10, 13:15
Fredericks Balls

I have a picture of that spiriant chaser with the arch off and it's been cut. Well butchered more like lol I think it would be a shame to hide your arches because they have had so much work done. Are they filler or steel? Maybe they could be flared a little more to cover the tyre, your not that far off. You need about as much flare on yours to get the Kranze to fit as I did to get the grids to fit....
09-12-10, 13:20
copeyhagen

cheers for te replies lads, do yas actually think mine could be flared anymore though?

the door is flared into the arch, would that fook it up.
09-12-10, 13:21
nikkisixx69

@copeyhagen

its hard to call, i reckon your arches are possibly a combination of both welding and filler, as that would the only way to make them look so perfect.

why would it cost a grand to get the camber right?? are arms that expensive???
09-12-10, 13:32
copeyhagen

yeh the arches are done well, theres a wedge been added into the bottom of the door to give it the angle.

another option could be to sell the kranze and try get something else with a low + offset, but i really like them.

only one company do camber arms, and theyre like a grand.

although tom or carpo or somone said they were testing out some jap ones a while ago, that they might be able to stock them.

also, had a tyre off one of my rezax and it looks like they have been welded. did you split them wheels you bought off dw nikki that were welded?

cheers
09-12-10, 13:44
Fredericks Balls

Well my arches had a little filler along the edge. Even though it didnt look it, it already had a fair amount of work done to the rear when I got it. Even still it went the extra half inch no bother at all. Looking at yours if you could flare the lip out that might do.

Rear arms should be no more than €500 euro for a set....

It would be a shame to sell them for something a little narrower...
09-12-10, 13:48
nikkisixx69

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Originally Posted by copeyhagen

yeh the arches are done well, theres a wedge been added into the bottom of the door to give it the angle.

another option could be to sell the kranze and try get something else with a low + offset, but i really like them.

only one company do camber arms, and theyre like a grand.

although tom or carpo or somone said they were testing out some jap ones a while ago, that they might be able to stock them.

also, had a tyre off one of my rezax and it looks like they have been welded. did you split them wheels you bought off dw nikki that were welded?

cheers

thats jap "3 piece" wheels for you some are welded some arent:rolleyes: no never had them split, way too much work and may have ruined the wheel!

you could sell the wheels but then you would be back to square 1 looking for other wheels (which is a pain) and you would have no idea if they would fit either till you put them on! feckin wheels! im in the same boat again , making the equips fit and what not:rolleyes:

surely carpo could get you in second hand camber arms from japan???
09-12-10, 13:48
Fredericks Balls

Before
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a59...s/a36ec921.jpg

After
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a59...s/e3a75391.jpg
09-12-10, 17:39
copeyhagen

@ nikki yeh strange alright, could you still take the centres out or is that impossible?

@kieran who done your arches? jh?

cheers dudes
09-12-10, 18:06
nikkisixx69

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Originally Posted by copeyhagen

@ nikki yeh strange alright, could you still take the centres out or is that impossible?

@kieran who done your arches? jh?

cheers dudes

centres will come out!
09-12-10, 18:26
Fredericks Balls

Quote:

Originally Posted by copeyhagen

@ nikki yeh strange alright, could you still take the centres out or is that impossible?

@kieran who done your arches? jh?

cheers dudes

Yip, thats the one. Give him a shout, he does be in Dublin now and again im sure he could have a look and give his opinion
09-12-10, 19:07
copeyhagen

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikkisixx69

centres will come out!

i tried takin one of the bolts off and it snapped my spanner..bastard!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fredericks Balls

Yip, thats the one. Give him a shout, he does be in Dublin now and again im sure he could have a look and give his opinion

yeh he seems to be the main man, ill pojnt him in direction of this thread.

cheers alds
09-12-10, 20:42
Greg

You'd be mad to wreck the nice work that is already done on your arches. Camber arms do come up every now and then so keep an eye out and you'll pick up a set. Is there nobody in Ireland that could make up a set for you, and then sell more kits to other JZX owners?
09-12-10, 22:26
eric25

your arches are savage lad i wouldn put bolt ons unless ya had no work done on them,
09-12-10, 23:34
copeyhagen

@ greg ya ill see if carpo ever sees second hand pairs, supposedly cusco do arms, and a few other companies too.

any ideas who could make em?!

@eric yeh your right, as savage as bolt ons look, theyre a last resort i think.
09-12-10, 23:49
Famous jh

Christ lads where are ye goin with camber in fairness...That would need about 3degrees!

More flarage and camber then maybe!
10-12-10, 12:39
Greg

Quote:

Originally Posted by copeyhagen

@ greg ya ill see if carpo ever sees second hand pairs, supposedly cusco do arms, and a few other companies too.

any ideas who could make em?!

I spotted some last night on the Yahoo auctions but they were expensive enough.

Anybody who makes custom metal work shold be able to do it, wouldn't they? If you find somebody they can use my car as a test mule because it'll be back off the road again once I get the Hyundai going again.
10-12-10, 13:08
copeyhagen

sound greg, and does yours have camber arms on now yeh? were they on the car elaving japland?

i think its working out too expensive to get them to fit, with the price of the wheels, followed by the price of whatever archwork / camber is required.

maybe ill just sell them at a loss, keep the arches flared as is and get something with a low positive offset.

the ssrs that are on it now fit the arches perfect, and theyre 9.5 +18.

it looks like its either that or go with the bolt ons, IF i could even put the boltons with the arches / doors the way they are.
10-12-10, 13:19
Fredericks Balls

Quote:

Originally Posted by copeyhagen

sound greg, and does yours have camber arms on now yeh? were they on the car elaving japland?

i think its working out too expensive to get them to fit, with the price of the wheels, followed by the price of whatever archwork / camber is required.

maybe ill just sell them at a loss, keep the arches flared as is and get something with a low positive offset.

the ssrs that are on it now fit the arches perfect, and theyre 9.5 +18.

it looks like its either that or go with the bolt ons, IF i could even put the boltons with the arches / doors the way they are.

Arch work isnt very expensive at all!

Surely you can go wider than 9.5 +18?
10-12-10, 13:30
copeyhagen

it is expensive to work on these arches, and maybe to see very minor returns.

im sure i could rock up to 10 or 10.5 with maybe a 0 to +5 offset.
10-12-10, 14:15
Fredericks Balls

for got to ask, what are your wheel specs again? You need to lose about 25mm minimum i'd say to fit
10-12-10, 14:28
stevek

there is a chap called jjo5y on DTDirl that specialises in custom metal work...maybe give him a shout? to look at making arms?ive no number though sorry
10-12-10, 14:53
copeyhagen

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fredericks Balls

for got to ask, what are your wheel specs again? You need to lose about 25mm minimum i'd say to fit

the ssrs are 9.5j +18, the weds are 11j -5.

@ steve, yeh i asked him about doing up a decat before, said it would deffo be possible but he was snowed under with work since starting up
10-12-10, 17:59
podge

Quote:

Originally Posted by copeyhagen

the ssrs are 9.5j +18, the weds are 11j -5.

@ steve, yeh i asked him about doing up a decat before, said it would deffo be possible but he was snowed under with work since starting up

pics of weds please if selling
10-12-10, 18:28
Greg

Quote:

Originally Posted by copeyhagen

sound greg, and does yours have camber arms on now yeh? were they on the car elaving japland?

i think its working out too expensive to get them to fit, with the price of the wheels, followed by the price of whatever archwork / camber is required.

maybe ill just sell them at a loss, keep the arches flared as is and get something with a low positive offset.

the ssrs that are on it now fit the arches perfect, and theyre 9.5 +18.

it looks like its either that or go with the bolt ons, IF i could even put the boltons with the arches / doors the way they are.

There's no aftermarket arms on mine at all. The only camber that is there is from the coilovers as low as they can go.

I've had 10.5j +30 on the back of mine and they had feck all poke and were hitting the coilovers going over bumps. The 10j Volks I had on with a 40mm spacer which made them -12 stuck out a good bit but your arches would cover them. :)