good on ye anyways!!:DQuote:
Originally Posted by PeterT
keep irish drifting fun!:D
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good on ye anyways!!:DQuote:
Originally Posted by PeterT
keep irish drifting fun!:D
Team-Trains definetly make it more fun, sunday was one of the best days of Irish drifting i'v ever witnessed!
Maybe a little too many "Run em again" though!
Cheers for that Ray!Quote:
Originally Posted by SRray
Just to add to what Ray and a few others have said, in my eyes the drivers seem to be progressing from strength to strength, the scene is evolving rapidly, but our events and organisation are lagging somewhat behind. Fans, members and drivers alike on here have suggested countless times that changes need to be made and it's still not really happening is it?
I'm not sure if Prodrift staff really take the time to take onboard what is said on here but I think it's high time that they did before it's too late. Make City West one to remember, new venue - new attitude - new thinking, before the fans and drivers lose heart
yeh, the trains were seriously good! i was so disapointed when they said it was over :( only went on for like 10 mins. going through the day after with all the run them agains and waiting around i was just dying to leave and get home...mega bored tbh!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay
deafo agree with the run em agains Jay,some could have been done and dusted a bit quickerQuote:
Originally Posted by Jay
[QUOTE=richy;117521]You should've won James, no need for 1,000 OMT's, best driver on the day by miles.
I wouldnt agree at all, James Deane is a serious talent dont get me wrong, but i dont believe he was the best driver of the day, Nigel Colfer was imo by far the most consistent driver of the day and the weekend.. James had a couple of spins and went off course once or twice, and i know a lot of that was down to different things like bein low on fuel and doing sumtin like 8 or 9 consecutive runs one after another on the same set of tyres, but at the end of the day..... It was the same for the two drivers. Nigel did the same amount of runs with him and i dont think i seen Nigel spin once, or straighten badly, in that match with james or over the hole weekend.. from what i can remeber anyway... I think Nigel deserved the win 100%.He didnt put a foot wrong anywhere... And plus the 6 cylinder sounds absolutely Deadly... Especially when its passin your nose at 14,500rpm sideways. Ha! Well done to all drivers.. Its easy for me to pick out james deane for goin off course twice out of all the great runs he done but im well aware how talented he is aswel as the other drivers and the fact is if i tried doin a run at that entry speed id have the poor RX7 on its roof in beside the crowd, so im just sayin it the way i seen it.. And Gibbons was painful to listen to
savage day out and yea the DI stand was serious lads.was over trying to get the shiny stickers off yas but you's were out of them:(
love techno's car.serious hachi man
daraghs 180.love it man.i want your wheels:p
all the cars on the DI stand were deadly:)
Just going to throw this out there too, I did actually think James deserved the win after the first OMT. He was on Nigel's door throughout his chase run and Nigel, while chasing wasn't as close to James. I heard some people then saying, 'ah sure James can't always win' etc.. Why not?! If he can drive like that consistantly he is the man to beat and every other driver will have to up their game again to beat him.
Would prob agree on that score Dar!
james deane should have won it.Looked to me like he lost interest after the decision to re run them hence spinning out a few times then..nigels friving was epic still, but james was stuck to him on the chase an he well pulled away on the lead run.
Shouldnt have been re-ran.
donal should have got a mos' bals out award
-jus seen posts above now im clearly not on my own here..PD judgeing fails
That's my point exactly, James was practically stuck to him when he was shadowing, run after run. On that merit, he should've won. No need for any OMT's in the final, in my humble opinion and from my epic vantage point atop the driftkits van!
Was happy to be back in Ireland after missing the last couple of events last year, and Fermoy.
Apart from actually planning ahead and having the car running well on thurs eve, got to start line fri, revved it and stupid thing was spluttering, onto the trailer and straight back to Xtreme Autos to sort for sat, thankfully it was just the air flow meter acting up, made some adjustments and back to Dublin.
THanks to Shane O'Sullivan for lending me an AFM for qualifying etc (And Damien Short for letting me try his one to be sure first) :)
Thank god sat was unorganised as it gave us plenty of time to sort various issues between mine, my bro's and mates cars! I appologise for continueously goin thru the pits looking for spares!
Was happy with my entry speeds too on sat and even happier tat i qualified considering still having issues, handed the battle over on a few different things but was expecting this anyway.
Cars gone into therapy now and ive my own form for a week in the sun coming soon! So should have no excuses for Citywest with the car messing me up again :D
Well folks on the back of an absolutely epic weekend this part is hugely important! The feedback after the events is always taken on board and i personally take the time to read through this thread and take any notes which i feel would benefit the series.
Firstly-Everyone can see that PD are making a huge effort to increase fan interaction and evolve along with the scene by introducing team drifting, passenger rides etc. So i dont think some of the harsher comments are justified..
Im not a judge so i have no opinion on any of the calls made but i respect the guys decisions..
In my opinion, i think we need to shake this 'Fight the Power' attitude towards PD. PD isnt some massive corporate company that laughs all the way to the bank after each event. Where would the drifting scene in Ireland be without PD?? Diffing comps in carparks organised by ae86irl?? When Rosegreen closed down it was a major kick in the teeth to the drift scene in Ireland and PD are the only people who went out and found us new tracks and kept the scene alive! Many others have tried and failed but PD have lasted and its only for one reason, the absolute love of the sport!!
People don't realise that by coming on here after each event and bad mouthing the whole thing there just killing the sport and the friendly atmosphere that we have worked so hard to create in Ireland.
If people have a genuine suggestion or idea thats brilliant, but out right putting down the series will get us nowhere.
Im in the D.I HQ every night, if anyone has an idea or suggestion to better the series please come and talk to me, or pm me.
The weekend just gone proves that an effort is being made to push the scene, all constructive criticism is welcome but there's no point in abuse! Everyones help is needed to create the drift scene that we all want so lets work together rather than trying to pull it apart!
Oh yes actualy also, bins, why is there none?!
Nicely said .Quote:
Originally Posted by nixon001
On another note : what have you done to that poor van ?? :eek:
You were killing us with the fumes when you were moving it from beside us !!
Danni didnt make one comparison to the UK? WTF? Can someone check IP address's to make sure its the same one its always been?
Well said dude.Quote:
Originally Posted by nixon001
I don't think there's much grievences with PD as a brand, company or organiser to be honest but the issues repeatedly outlined in judging, PA, commentators etc are cropping up all too often in aftermath threads I feel. What better way to be able to work on these than to have the fans spell out what they're not happy
tell me about it! some fucker drove it through a flood, hydraulic lock=bent conrod=fucked van!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Aidan Hogan
DARRAGH- Just going to throw this out there too, I did actually think James deserved the win after the first OMT. He was on Nigel's door throughout his chase run and Nigel, while chasing wasn't as close to James. I heard some people then saying, 'ah sure James can't always win' etc.. Why not?! If he can drive like that consistantly he is the man to beat and every other driver will have to up their game again to beat him.
MICK K-Would prob agree on that score Dar!
Not trying to start any arguements but is it not yourself mick who was accusing pd of being corrupt because its always the same winners???
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Originally Posted by Aidan Hogan
Filled it with Monster!
Well said Nixon.. I think people should start making points on what they feel needs to be done, in order to stop the critisim that goes on, constantly after every event!
PD are making a big effort to keep fans entertained and the Team-Train idea worked! Keep idea's like that going for sure!
Another thing i feel that needs to be done is having a timetable printed out, for competitors at least.. No one knew what was happening all day sat, and most of sunday unless the commentator announced it, it would defo help speed things up as competitors would be ready!
No not so much Aaron this year as opposed to last,I felt certain events results were laid out for some people,Not limiting that to either series last year just to note.
I thought with James and Nigel after James laid down a run and Nigel couldnt shadow it that the run was deserving of James. Not discrediting Nigel,He drove well and consistent all weekend just with regard to that run I felt there was no need for OMT!
Judging in PD needs a huge shake up! It needs to be 3 seperate judging angles and no communication between judges,Just my take on it!
Should have mentioned that too myself! Team train idea was genious in fairness, testiment to PD's thinking outside the box attitude methinks! Keep the interval acts coming, *cough* extreme entry comps *cough* :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Jay
I second that....! Driving like Aussies FTW :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Darragh
I understand that dude and its all good but progress is a slow process and i think its fair to say that its getting better, or at least new things are being tried anyway, introduction of a new commentator, more crowd interaction etc etcQuote:
Originally Posted by Darragh
Yep Rome wasn't built in a day and all that for sure! Long live Prodrift, without them we'd have sweet fuck all, and nothing to give out about :DQuote:
Originally Posted by nixon001
im thinking i might get an auld meeting going one night soon down in the D.I hq, anyone with an opinion is welcome amd wel brainstorm a few realistic ideas...
tea nd biscuits for all!!
I'd honestly be well up for that and I'll bring drivers!Quote:
Originally Posted by nixon001
If that suits you??
Where and when :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick K
Yup no sweat!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick K
Im gonna get onto this tomorrow and organise something for the next week or two!!
Maybe 2 weeks be ideal! Mid week!
If thats good for everyone else of course,
That would be a good idea alrite. sat or sunday week?
edit: just noticed mick says mid week, suppose whichever suits more!
Midweek only for me Petey T
you may put the kettle on now if its to boil on time!! peice of crap!!lolQuote:
Originally Posted by nixon001
a few things have been said that i agree with i did motorcross racing for nearly 6 years the orgainisation in it is very good, i think pd shold look at other sports in this country and see how they run i no motox is diffrant but this is how we did it you got givin a program when you go to sign on in the morn all spectators were given one as they came in the gate a simple bit of paper on it it had all the entered riders names, licence numbers, sponsers, bikes, ages (this is not only handy for the spectators as the comintators could do with it at times) a timetable of events
8.30-9.00 sign on
8.45-10.00 scrutiny (not when you are on the way to practice)
10.00-11.00 group A practice
11.00-12.00 group B practice
and so on very simple!! then people would not find them self asking whats happining now???? or running around because they see a car from there groupe out on track and there was no announcement to say go to the line and so on!
this is a simple idea i no it does be planned and there is a timetable done up but it is not given to the drivers only to the event staff,
but my number 1 thing that needs to be done is GET RID OF THAT MUPPET GIBBENS he is an embassment to the sport he has no clue what a car is so haow can he comment on how it is being driven!!
a proper P.A. system (sound system) is needed at these events in order to get any interaction with the crowd. i also work for a P.A. hire company called M.G. Audio and could help get this sorted out. The sound needs to be evenly spread out along the track and each stack properly time delayed, not just squawking out of the judges stand, even as far as down to the drivers who are queuing up, to let them know whats going on. Screens too, as mentioned by many could be sorted without any hassle by M.G. Audio. something to think about and look into, would make a huge difference to the atmosphere at the events. its as simple as, if people are having fun they will come back.
Id be up for a meet to air some views on this.Im not going after PD on some witch hunt either I just think they have some issues to sort out,they are easily sorted too for the future of the sport and future of crowd support because without crowd support you have no driver support and no driver support you will have no sport at all.Also we need the people who have been there from day1 to air their views of the way things are now.
**oh yea, the last PD event I was at was Punchestown last year, and this was a big improvement. As said above, its a great event, but just needs some improvement to make it even better**
From a spectators point of view, we have no idea what is happening. So our only way of know what's going on is by listening to the commentators. But when they dont know then that gets frustrating. Before some of the events were to start they were saying stuff like:
"well it should start now at a quarter to so just a few minutes, although it will probably be ten or fifteen more because we are running late haha so about five past"
So i go to the jacks and come back and ive missed the start :confused:
I, and from what I could gather too most people around me had no idea at all when the runs were starting. Again neither did the commentators.
The Judges, well two of them, were very tame in making judgements, there seemed like a lot of OMT's that probably didnt need to be run. They also seemed to change their minds quite a bit depending on what other judges said which makes no sense.
Dont get me wrong, im not having a dig here, just making points. OMT's are great, and id have been happy to see, for instance, Colfer and Dean OMT 45 times because it was great to watch, but in the fairness of the sport you have to also be fair to the lads too. They are the guys paying the big bucks to put on the show.
IMHO Prodrift needs:
A timetable. Visable at certain points so drivers and spectators know whats going on. But not a decorative one, they need to stick to it.
I agree a screen for the judges would be an advantage
Some sort of fog horn/light system visable/audable to the spectators to alert them a run has just started. And by the looks of it to inform the Judges too.
I thought the commentators were ok but neither guys had a clue about drifting itself. Maybe it would be better to have one clued up commentator. Kind of like in F1, you have one guy to talk shite, and the other to give some informed opinions, which is great.
I thought the judging was a bit all over the place, in the super lap the guys were being fairly critical in a good way but come the battles a lot of the time they seemed a little bit afraid to make a decision.
€20 entry is top money, for any motorsport event in Ireland. I dont for a second think that Prodrift were down the local AIB unloading the tipper full of cash yesterday but at the same time it lacks some basic features that pretty much all other Motorsport events in Ireland would feature.
As previouisly said, City West is a new venture for them, it would be great to see them step up the running too.
Didn't they usually have timetables printed? Serious lack of communication for drivers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay
Fridays practise was a joke (thankfully my car broke pre so dint sit there all day) No offence to non PD drivers but WTF, they had an hour tothemselves, 8/9cars? When competitors in the amount if 50 odd had to share an hour also where most only got 3 laps throughout the whole day!! What a waste of €50.
If organised proper there should have been a continuous lane or even seperate into more groups so everyone could make full use of their time, instead of waiting 2hours between laps.
Yes it was a great event but god someone is seriously lacking in organisational skills even at this stage, how many years later??
I can easily compare a lot of things but surely if other organisations can manage, why can't PD, especially a it's one of the oldest Championships in Europe?
For crowd interaction, u need funny commentators, not serious, the odd laugh and talkin a lot of bollix! Along with general banter and discussions about runs the way the average person would chat about it, give out bout drivers wen they fuk up, have the banter and change of tone every now and then instead of a boring same toned voice all along, boring!
The non PD drivers ponyed up €100 to do the practice day and i seen all the cars alot more than 3 times;)Quote:
Originally Posted by EvojeepGal
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Did they treat Polo poorly? Was he OK,Will he pull through?
Does he need a cuddle?
Can someone have Aidan organise a cuddle for whoever it was?
Also this is a handy link...
http://www.samaritans.org/
If I had've had a working car I would have had to pay €100 to be in the PD group, I can assure u I wouldn't have been happy if I did participate for 3 laps.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stevo
Of the amount of drivers I spoke to throughout the weekend I didn't come across one who had more than 3/4 laps after been there all day. And not one happy either with the track time they got, I must have just come across the unhappy ones all wk end!