would luv see few my runs from sat if anyone has some:D
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At 9am when I was on track there was approx 10 to 15 cars on the start line. They would have had to stop the runs every 3 or 4 runs to keep letting cars out as lads arrived. Start time was 9am and thats when it was to be divided 50 50. If it looked unfair it was nobodys fault only the drivers.
well said wez,, the way i see it is the following driver is ment to mirror the leader as close as possable not get into a position where he cannot hold pace or make contact due to a change of position fom the leaded,, hard done by alan after bn on fire all weeknd
Yes it was divided 50 50 at that time, so half were left out and then the original second half who were on time was expanded to take those that came late! They know how many cars would be there, I was at media sign on and they asked the gate how many cars to expect!
I totally agree with you. Not to take anything from Nigel he was brilliant and in fairness very consistant IMO which I think let others down but I couldn't believe when they called omt again James was so close the whole time chasing. But the judges came back on and explained why but that makes no sense to me.
Maybe this is where not being at enough events let's me down. The chase car has to mirror the lead car. But then they seemed to award the second chase car better if instead of mirroring the car just got the qualifying clipping points. From watching yesterday it's really a case of one or the other and I'd have though seeing the drivers as close as possible like James was is more entertaining to watch?
Maybe I'm wrong and if so my bad! Just my 2 cents worth....
was a great wknd dennis healy proved how much of a huge loss he is to the sport was unreal jamie russel was on fire up till he blew his box some good action on sat taut the non seed standard was poor apart from a few drivers who were flyin it taut sunday was a great day team drift was savage and team ni made the day awesome fair play to chris brady really showed us wat he can do i think james deane was robbed he clearly bet colfer and was made run again and i think the alan and gavin thing was handled well by just startin again james runnin outta petrol was a bit unusual lol. had great fun doin a bit of panelbeatin on friday with duct tape and cable ties lol
Pissed off now I couldn't make it. Been the first one in a long time that I missed. Sounds like it was good!
Is this ProDrift's official word on it from a starting marshall judging it or just your opinion Dan? Genuine question
Firstly anything i say on here is my opinion and not that of Prodrifts unless i state otherwise..
However as 1 of the 2 marshalls at the startline and being 1 of only a few people who saw the incident 1st hand i just gave the exact details of what happened..
As i said im not saying its right or wrong i just felt if there was going to be an argument id inform everyone of exactly what happened..
Id like to think i get on well with all drivers, Especially the pro as they'v been around awhile so i dont take sides in this kinda thing..
Me and Alan had a good chat at the end and he knows this too..
I firstly have a massive issue with the Lenihan v Sinnott decision. First of all it is always said to us that it is a NON CONTACT SPORT. Cars are to start a battle side by side to a certain point (cone) where one car leads and the other falls behind to follow. The following car is to mirror the lead car.
Should he not have been behind Alan.
First of all its up the the lead driver to take what line he likes and the following driver should adapt to the lead drivers entry speed. Gavin should not have been beside Alan in the first place. He was in the total incorrect position for initiation and the marks can be seen on Alans front wing & we all saw his front bumper falling off. Contact from following driver. 10 Nil simple.
The judges gave a 10 nil decision & then because of complaints the decide to rerun it all over again. Sher if we look hard enough we will find pros & cons in every run. Does that mean we are gonna rerun them all again just because one party is not happy.
Like i said Wez i honestly dont know whos right or wrong and im not even going into it to be honest...
Just giving the facts dude...
Thats because 75% of the competitors didnt bother their arse to be ready on track at 9am for the first group.
Agree 100 per cent... I was at the line for 9 and there was only a handfull of drivers... If youv to keep stopping it to leave more cars up it can become a safety issue as lets say if it kept happenin and i missed 1 and released the cars there could be a huge chance of a head on just on initiation.
Most drivers are pretty good and the likes of Wez, finbarr and so on are always there raring to go but u'l always have the stragglers holding everyone else up.
@ pddan, suggest to the pd crew ta get a big screen for scores and entrys for city west!!;)
It wouldn't have to be a huge screen, something like a 19" screen would do, like 100 euro. I would nearly even loan them a screen if they would do it! Place it at the back of the judges' tower pointing down. They could also just announce over the PA system they already have, surely that would be grand, and use a screen at th back with the scores of the last few or the top scores so far, kinda like the D1 qualifying league table.
you can hire them out for peanuts these days same as the ones on the motorways
totally agree with u there wez on the two bad decisions
it was obvious that alan wasnt at fault and should have been run again
james deane was on nigels arse on that run! but hey at the end of the day we can do fuk all about the stupid judges decisions!
kieran hynes was on the ball on that run !
i seriously think 1 or 2 judges should go and bring two new judges for a round !
Here here, even though Nigel was driving perfectly all day and was definately driving well enough to win, from where I was down at the corner it looked like James was stuck to his back bumper for the most of the 2 runs and very slightly pulled away from him when leading. Maybe I missed something because we were down near the start line.
In general I thought it was a good weekend, pity about the controversy. Even though I was standing there, I didnt see what happened between gavin and alan s because I was looking out towards the track when it happened, but maybe it shows that theres a need for a rule from the start line until initiation at tracks where space is tight? This track is unique too because the further to the right you are, the more of a hump you come over, which in turn throws you further to the left when you're coming down off it, which didnt help in the battle in question. It was just a situation which hopefully will never arise again, and if we learn a lesson from it, it wont.
As for the train drifting, oh my god! That was the coolest thing ive ever seen ha ha! Everyone loved it! Hopefully we can make it a regular feature at events! :D I was stopped at the corner waiting to go out for the parade and all the lads coming back from the train looked like soldiers coming from a battle, they all had the thousand yard stare! :eek:
Id just like to say thanks to shane, holly, trevor, jules, sean, and everyone else for changing the box on my car in under an hour to get us back out for the top 16, legends!
And Christys and Nigels cars are both unbelievable.
Bring on CW! :)
I found the hardest video to record was after the trains were done and everyone just came back out and went mental !!
Hadn't a clue which way to point the camera :eek:
I would have much rathered watch more of the trains for the day for €20
Thank god we had a bbq (even though health and safety didn't agree) cause hearing how much that chipper was was just unbelievable !!
Something like this would even do http://komplett.ie/Komplett/product/...C/default.aspx
cheaper monitors can b got, or a little more and you can get a lot bigger!
And announce it as well. By letting people know how they are getting on through qualifying and so on, it would create an atmosphere. I m sure on the FD stream during qualifying if they weren't giving the score it would making it boring, cause it would just look like practice!
Me too i'm not frm d north either haha!!! Thanks 2 d lads for lettin me do d train with dem it woz mental , Best crack i've ever had :D
Quote Chris at d start line: Don't me afraid to trade paint dats wat its all bout haha ,, wat a lunatic :)
Well done 2 brian cotter also drove well all weekend!!
Also 2 larry he woz on fire all weekend great driver!!
james woz unlucky in d end thought he shud hav won nd his entry 2 super lap woz unbelievable , practically backwards :D
Well done 2 nigel on d win!!!
SAVAGE WEEKEND!!
Roll in city west :D
My video of Sundays action!
http://driftireland.com/showthread.php?t=8110
Overall I thought the weekend was Awsome, nice weather, big crowd and I have to say Serious Driving from Everyone!!!! Never was at a pd event before that every driver was really really pushing hard... :eek:
Well done to Larry Love who was on it all weekend and qualified 2nd in super lap and was delighted for Martin O Meara aswell for doing a 'super' Super lap run...And of course to Nigel for the win..Well deserved.
And as for the Judging I cant really comment because i didnt see all the battles cause i was mostly at the start line...Roll on City West!
You should've won James, no need for 1,000 OMT's, best driver on the day by miles.
The judges, well two of them, need to sprout a pair of stones and make a decision on a close run instead of running and running until someone makes a big obvious mistake.
The Team Drift was a new initiative that was tried out to see how the crowd reacted, and it proved to be one of the highlights of the day. Fair play to all the teams especially the Team Northern Ireland loonies, you all put on a great show and fingers crossed we can fit it in the manic weekend that will be Citywest.
The comments about Saturday having poor organisation are a bit unfair as Wez and the lads have said, drivers come in drips and drabs throughout the day. Thats neither their fault nor PD's as a lot of drivers have a substantial distance to travel. Track delays are also inevitable when the entry field consists of 67 cars on Saturday and 22 on Sunday. The start line and track marshalls have a lot of work to do to get cars lined up and ready to rock.
Danny D was very nervous on Saturday as he has never commentated at a drift event before, but I thought he did very very well on Sunday. He did a lot of research on Saturday night into all the competitors and made every effort to speak to a lot of the drivers on Sunday. :)
The low point of the weekend for me was the fingers to the tower following the Alan and Gavin situation. Highly nasty stuff even though I know they were not necessarily directed at me. Understandably certain people were upset following the decision to re-run the battle but that sort of reaction is nothing I have ever been on the end of at PD events before, and hopefully one I wont see again.:confused: Especially as usually everyone really seems to get along and have the laugh both at the event and afterwards.
From my view, Gavin, James, Nige and Alan were all on form all day, some crazy drifting was on show. And big up to Larry and Chris Brady.. flying it all day Saturday and were great to watch on Sunday. Some great battles were had and thankfully the weather held up.. :)
Cant wait for Citywest!
good essay :p
seen that lad:eek: cheers for putting me on it!:D
paddys great work:
http://speedhunters.com/archive/2010...land-rd-2.aspx
First of all I dont want to be seen to be putting a negative spin on the round that was Punchestown but Im sorry I felt it was more bad than good.It was a great venue as always and the weather perfect for high speed drift action.
1.Commentors were awful,uneducated in mechanical terms,lack of communication with PD crew on the ground,some silly N.I remarks that were kinda risque in my opinion,I know DannyD was trying but by 5.30 sunday I was glad not to have to listen to himself and Gibbons anymore:p
2.Judging,as long as Iv knowing what drifting was and is ment to be I always thought the lead car was to set off at his pace,his level of intenseity in regard of angle,early/late iniation and its up to the chase car to mirror there lines/moves??:confused:
3.At €20(1day)a head the event is seriously not as good value as some UK events for example JDM Allstars is £15 for a weekend ticket,32 top drivers,top judges,well organised,no shite show cars and best of all massive crowd interaction!!
We need to get the buzz that exsisted in drifting in Ireland two or more years ago back,crowds going mental,drivers getting off on knowing the crowd was wanting more,that just is not happening,crowds booing judges says it all really!:mad:
4.I have to say the DriftIreland guys had a cool,laid back set up,I like:D
wished I could have made it over for a chat but well done Jay and Gem ye did yourselves proud:cool:
5.Thought the UDC lads were unreal,Brady and Barnett(light blue Procars 180sx)some awesome driving cant wait to see them again
6.Big respect to the competing drivers who drove so well over the weekend,with limited sponsership out there its not easy and these guys gave it there all out there,I didnt see anyone not trying hard,100% f*ck it whatever happens happens driving,which is cool!!:D
So on a whole great drifting and drivers gave it there all but the organisers are letting the scene down in my opinion