jes theres fairly strict restrictions, in pd!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by yowdy
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jes theres fairly strict restrictions, in pd!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by yowdy
well lad i seen it the las day in mondello in the wet damien mulvey runing r888s on the rear in the wet abso leaving lads for dirt off the line,, like he didnt do anytng wrong nothn to stop him.. tyre treadwear might stop some of this aldo there are ways aroubt treadwear on the rear for grip
with every track in Ireland being an e-brake entry into the first corner, at least for 99% of the drivers i dont see this as being a major issueQuote:
Originally Posted by yowdy
i dont think anyone relys on sheer turn in front grip to break the rear end away except maybe donal garry and some other NA 86's
wel maby its just under experanced drivers like myself that like the feel of gud grip up front
oh excuse me :-)
the lowest tread wear i ever ran was 200!!! this was 3 years ago!!! i ran odd tyres on the front of my car this year and still got grip!!!! a well steup car will still grip well front and rear even on a cheaper brand tyre!!!! to be honest i hope it goes ahead as it will even up the playin field for the lads who can't pay big moneys for tyres!!
I fully agree... Not everybody can afford new tires all the time or big expensive ''grippy'' tires to compeat with the bigger ladsQuote:
Originally Posted by danmoorhead
If i remember correctly when i was talking to you in cork you where running on part worns what ever you could get your hands on ? ? :cool:
you should be well able to buy dear tires now with YOUR SPONSOR DRIVE FOR 2011:p:p:pQuote:
Originally Posted by danmoorhead
what about the rs2 on the front and the federal rsr on the back last round ha ha ha ha :p:p:p:p:p:pQuote:
Originally Posted by danmoorhead
dan was not running cheap tires.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dunnedriftin
one stage he was running rsr's on the back;)
I remember him putting on the RSR's in cork when he was going up against carpo..Quote:
Originally Posted by bart
now now dan... hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by danmoorhead
I think a thread wear of 200 is too low for the rear tyres.
It will have some lads swapping the 888's / rsr's to hancooks ventus R-s2 ,witch aren't a cheap tyre either.
I think a threadwear of 230-240 and a width restriction of 245 would do more to even up things.
I'd leave the front tyres unrestricted as the advantage they give towards safety far outweighs the cost or performance gain.
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Originally Posted by rb26s15
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Originally Posted by bart
i ran one set of rsr's in cork!!!! when i heard i was goin up again christy i said id need someting ta try keep 2 em!!!! orther den dat i tink i used 8 new tyres on the rear all year the rest were part worns!!!! i honestly never knew wat a car could grip like on the like of rsr's!!!! but the 200 tread wear ting won't make much odds to alot of the guys that never ran em!!!! i really tink its a gud idea!!
and sweet fuck did you make smoke and speed on the rsrs
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Originally Posted by danmoorhead
I think its a great idea, and wouldn't worry me one bit, i was running bald rsr's on the front of my yoke from i started PD in may lol.. and running cheap stuff on the back... i've never ever used them on the back of my car.. if i did... i could have had better result's.. but this will make it more interesting next year and it will be alot more fair on the people who cant afford to compete with the bigger lads.. will be great to see how the results differ in 2011 :)
Surely a power restriction would level things up alot more, would it not?
Or seperate divisions for different power bands...?
Power restriction is very difficult to police in any form of motorsport which is why it's rarely implementedQuote:
Originally Posted by Nicky
Besides there would be a huge difference between a 300 hp cam and a 300 hp chaser
power restriction couldnt work, but even if you look at Banzi corolla guy, correct me if im wrong but i think his cam is a 1.6 and he's a fuckin demon and beats more powerfull cars
It would be done on a power to weight ratio.Quote:
Originally Posted by calicagesracing
But that would be completely unenforceable! As they`d need a mobile weigh bay and dyno at every event!!
great idea, limit to width too would be good too, would even up the field a bit
every little helps in this day and age, entry fee reduction etc is also a good idea
just leave pd the way it is ......!!!
we'll find out soon enough, championship starts in march.
the new rules and regulations may go up soon so people have time to change plans etc etc
Prodrift and drivers do the sport for different reasons, drivers do it for the craic and PD do it as a business to make money. Fair enough, and provides us drivers with well organised events and the best series in Europe! A lot of the events this year the judges wanted crazy entries, Which the crowd love. If a tyre restriction is for front Tyres, it will make the whole thing less spectacular, i think we should be following japan, where the angle is so important. Thats where you need as much grip on the front as possible! The more grip on the front, the crazier a driver can be! If this comes in it might restrict the sport. fully agree with a tyre restriction for the rear tho!
Put a seal on the Engine & a seal on the Ecu that the marshalls / a prodrift offical is only able to obtain & it would soon be sorted! Driver be disqualified if there caught cheeting.Quote:
Originally Posted by calicagesracing
I know in formula ford & a few others they used to use a seal of some sort if they suspected you cheating & at the end of the year you are required to open your engine up by a offical & its inspected.
It would be very very expensive tho...! Martin tracey would know alot more of this than i would he does it for the punto engines iirc!
I think putting a gap on the width of the tires would be an option but dont want to regelate it to much or it will be like the punto abart racing series every car the same:cool:
Excuse me? What exactly is that supposed to mean, or is there a joke im missing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Chuck_g
Darren is right on this one, should it come in it will mean closer battles basically, not allowing one car to have a clear advantage over another one due to much more grip.
Just a Joke lad.........changed to the truth ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeFitz
1: The current rules are the tyres hve to be e-marked (road legal in europe).
2: So there is already a limit to make it fair on the front at least.
3: As for the back i dont agree with it from one point of view because we all want to be better or faster. But it it is def a good idea as in it will make it a more even playing field.
4: That in turn will make it more affordable for a guy/gal on a less of a budget to be able to compete against the people with money.
5: But that just means that the money will be transfered to something else ie: better suspension for more grip or bigger width tyres, or better prepped cars for weight etc so to be honest you will never completely be able to stop people having an advantage.
To sum this up i dont really mind what happens and whatever does people will find ways around it.
Martin Ffrrench
Exactly, people will build more grippy cars!:D
GRIP FTW!!
By the way i dont think restricting tyre widths is a good idea especially for the men running smaller wheels..
;) lol .........Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisbrady325
This is true so i would agree with this new rule to make the battles closer to try and get more people to events....the other side of this is we will now have to find more mechanical grip to pull awayQuote:
Originally Posted by yowdy
exactly as you say car suspension mods on the rear will come more into play to get grip,,
Is there anything in new restrictions that says Tyre Sponsored drivers will actually have to run the Brand of tyre they are being sponsored by :-)
just curious on this as im not a competitive drifter but iv heard about pro drivers using grippy tyres on the rear this is for more grip and traction when ya have the power to get out of the corner quicker yes??? so if theres a restriction on the rear tyres it makes it more interesting yes?? ie, equal power equal tyres comes down to the driver and not as much on the car and wat its running.. along with the driver of course.
Yawn! If ifs and buts wer candy and nuts :D
All pointless convo until the rules are defo me thinks!
As the guys have said,anything that gets the battles closer is a good idea in my eyes :)
Ah sher run whatever ya want,sher most of the 'sponsored' cars ive seen at the events dont seem to run the tyre thats advertised on the car itself.....