View Full Version : B16A engine build Not drift but good time attack
ledwithracing
25-04-12, 11:44
Building a new B16a engine for a friend of Mine.
Nearing completion soon.
Very agreesively worked CNC machined head and ports.
Agressive cam profiles
High C:R
Jenvey trottles.
Oversize valves
Oil ways reworked to increase Crank and rod oil delivery
and aid oil retun to sump.
Just waiting on the custom valve spring to match Cams.
Looking to Dyno it in the comming weeks.
this is not the site for honda bull shit, so at a quick guess and a glance at your sig you are just hunting for work??? there are fees for site traders
Honda bullshit :) haha! Don't tar us all with the same brush... I'm sure there are a few n/a drifters out there with k20s in them... Granted, not a lot :)
diggerdolan
25-04-12, 12:12
What, if any for that matter drift car is running a k20??
What, if any for that matter drift car is running a k20??
hahaha
Don't know of any :) But it's totally possible, if a bit worthless seeing as sr20det are going so cheap now... There are some escorts and 3 series out there with k20 conversions, they look pretty tail happy...
What, if any for that matter drift car is running a k20??
White ae86 levin at driftfest last weekend was powered by a honda stove ! And well powered at that ! Sounded magic !
ledwithracing
25-04-12, 13:18
Granted that was a f20 engine. there an impressive engine for standard. Set of throttles omex and you have 250 bhp and 150ftlbs torque
Granted that was a f20 engine. there an impressive engine for standard. Set of throttles omex and you have 250 bhp and 150ftlbs torque
Fuck me that's serious power!! Well considering a Jap f20c is 247bhp and 161ftlbs STANDARD,,!! I don't think buying an ecu, itb's and I presume get you to map it would be a good investment for 3bhp gain and a 10ftlbs loss,,,!!
Random but the thread reminds me of this K20 S13....................
http://vimeo.com/20522214
http://vimeo.com/32831592
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll147/ievaq8/4ec2d85d.jpg
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll147/ievaq8/s13%20build/2012-04-09153107.jpg
http://i46.servimg.com/u/f46/11/56/52/52/31226511.jpg
way2fastforu
25-04-12, 15:46
no drift car runs a k20 its a fwd engine...any rwd cars runnin a honda engine are runnin an f20!
ledwithracing
25-04-12, 15:59
For A bomb shell......., the head for this engine is going to be used on a clockwise rotation setup once it been proven out and will be run with a sequential box. It will be able to be used for RWD.
Theres a mk2 escort rally car local to me here running a k20 engine. Shoving out over 300 bhp. Its epic to say the least
this is not the site for honda bull shit
No need to hurt my feelings Gem....:(
Bit harsh guys
I'm interested in the build so therefore it's useful
Just don't spread too much Honda around here
ledwithracing
26-04-12, 09:18
Cheers John, yes I clearly see now that the honda info is not appreciated. Mostly into ae86 & 4age myselfbut this was a project I took on.
ledwithracing
26-04-12, 09:23
this is not the site for honda bull shit, so at a quick guess and a glance at your sig you are just hunting for work??? there are fees for site traders
Gem you seem to be a long standing member of this site. Can you put me I touch with the correct admin person. Ive contacted Peter g on this before on getting a section but to no avail. Your help would be appreciated.
Cheers
kev.skyline
26-04-12, 11:25
Bit harsh guys
I'm interested in the build so therefore it's useful
Just don't spread too much Honda around here
surprise surprise, the lad without a rwd is interested.
if its putting a b16 into a rwd id love to see how its done, be very interested in how to make it run clockwise, other wise its of no use.
diggerdolan
26-04-12, 11:25
no drift car runs a k20 its a fwd engine...any rwd cars runnin a honda engine are runnin an f20!
I knew this however there is always one!
Barry Ryan Test 2011 Honda B16 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKZ6HFU6NMA)
surprise surprise, the lad without a rwd is interested.
if its putting a b16 into a rwd id love to see how its done, be very interested in how to make it run clockwise, other wise its of no use.
Go fuck yourself ;) Laaaaaaaad
WOW... serious honda hatred...
RWDing a K20 is a feat of engineering, making it run the opposite way, etc. It's not of huge benefit, and can be seen as a waste of money, as mentioned, with the f20 proving itself as a 240bhp n/a 2.0litre.
Didn't mean to spark an arguments, but why are there so many honda haters here? Seems a bit childish, doesn't it? I'm sorry for hijacking this thread :s
Gem you seem to be a long standing member of this site. Can you put me I touch with the correct admin person. Ive contacted Peter g on this before on getting a section but to no avail. Your help would be appreciated.
Cheers
Who's Peter G?!!!!!! :)
ledwithracing
26-04-12, 13:51
Who's Peter G?!!!!!! :)
Ah I meant Peter T, think he ia an admin here
Why the need to change rotation?
If you use s2000 running gear, would it not be fairly straightforward???
Just custom bell housing or adapter needed maybe...
Ah I meant Peter T, think he ia an admin here
I know :) Yes Yes he is. He also recently came out of the closet so congradulate him when you pm him :):)
ledwithracing
26-04-12, 15:24
Why the need to change rotation?
If you use s2000 running gear, would it not be fairly straightforward???
Just custom bell housing or adapter needed maybe...
The B16 engine runs anticlockwise. and no rwd gearboxs will suit anticlockwise rotation. there are other ways around it but yet to be tried.
The B16 engine runs anticlockwise. and no rwd gearboxs will suit anticlockwise rotation. there are other ways around it but yet to be tried.
Ah right, I was getting confused with K series engines...
or you could just buy the right gear box: http://www.gforcetransmissions.com/tran_gf5r-import.asp
Go fuck yourself ;) Laaaaaaaad
duno y but that comment made me LOL :) maybe just how it sounded in my head
ledwithracing
27-04-12, 22:19
The RWD box does look interesting.
ledwithracing
27-06-12, 13:15
For the few that were interested in this engine,
It made 208bhp at the wheels and 132 ft lbs at wheels
Hard to fine the exact losses in the drivetrain but I make it at
228bhp and 150 ftlbs at flywheel
Please feel free to correct me if the drive train losses are incorrect.
Pretty impressive figures considering it's N/A and the B16A is 170 standard :)
Barry Ryans B16 Mk2 is a serious car, i would like to know the modifications needed to run the engine the right way, just out of curiosity.
The K20 engine in that S13 is stupid looking i think, i hate the height of it in there :undecided:
Thats very big HP you made on that 1600 Brian, where is it making peak power?
Id say you'd have to have her well 'wound' the whole time??
How would you compare the honda engines from the 16/20v 4a-ge's you build ?
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