Japspeed full steering arms - info needed

[skinnynphats200]

As above, heres the link

http://www.japspeed.ie/Nissan-Skyline-R34/Nissan-Skyline-R34/Nissan-Full-Steering-Arms/p-22-1-656/


1 Is the thread on the inner tie rod longer on these compared to standard? And if so by how much?
2 How much longer is the actual tie rod and tie rod end compared to standard rods
3 Is anybody using these at the moment that can provide feedback on them

[B&G Extreme Drifting]

As above, heres the link

http://www.japspeed.ie/Nissan-Skyline-R34/Nissan-Skyline-R34/Nissan-Full-Steering-Arms/p-22-1-656/


1 Is the thread on the inner tie rod longer on these compared to standard? And if so by how much?
2 How much longer is the actual tie rod and tie rod end compared to standard rods
3 Is anybody using these at the moment that can provide feedback on them

Went with new standard, likes of jap speed and tein yes the Structure is stronger, yes their a little longer but before brought the car down wez I was on phone to him and asked will I buy teins but said basically not much diff that new standards would be good.

[juice]

I have these in my s14 and the lock is very good with just these and bump stops shaved.

SERIOUS OVER CENTER PROBLEM THOUGH

It was a cheap solution at the time but if I was doing it again I would look at modifying the hubs and moving the rack first. You will need longer rods anyway if you modify the hubs so standard ones would work for extending.

[skinnynphats200]

Went with new standard, likes of jap speed and tein yes the Structure is stronger, yes their a little longer but before brought the car down wez I was on phone to him and asked will I buy teins but said basically not much diff that new standards would be good.



I have these in my s14 and the lock is very good with just these and bump stops shaved.

SERIOUS OVER CENTER PROBLEM THOUGH

It was a cheap solution at the time but if I was doing it again I would look at modifying the hubs and moving the rack first. You will need longer rods anyway if you modify the hubs so standard ones would work for extending.

Cheers lads, hubs, rack and wishbones have been modified and the track width is now wider too so standard arms wont work Niall, know what your saying though.

@ Juice, what i'm looking to find out is;

the threads on the inner tie rod that screw into the rack, how much longer are they than the thread on the standard tie rods? This is whats important so that more washers can go in and allow the rack more travel

Cheers

[juice]

Not any longer as far as i know, they have the spacer built it, im sure u could space them another 4-6mm

[Cooldrft]

Cheers lads, hubs, rack and wishbones have been modified and the track width is now wider too so standard arms wont work

What you want is something like these, they allow more travel than you could ever get with washers.
I made them when I was running modified hubs last year.
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h231/COOLDRFT/d93f7ff0.jpg

[mark-32]

Gem has a set of tein ones up there, are just cut the standard ones and weld them

[skinnynphats200]

The standard ones are cut and sleeved 20mm but the issue is the travel inside the rack hence the need for longer threads, how much is he looking for the tein ones Mark out of interest coz that would give the longer thread needed and could cut and sleeve them too

[skinnynphats200]

What you want is something like these, they allow more travel than you could ever get with washers.
I made them when I was running modified hubs last year.
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h231/COOLDRFT/d93f7ff0.jpg

They look good man, you have a set to sell???

[skinnynphats200]

@ cool drift. Also what are the dimensions, exta length, travel etc..

[driftescort]

What is the problem you are having? As above I just sleeved my Teins when I modded my hubs. If you modified the hubs the same way as I did then I certainley wouldn't be using the Japspeed ends.

[skinnynphats200]

What is the problem you are having? As above I just sleeved my Teins when I modded my hubs. If you modified the hubs the same way as I did then I certainley wouldn't be using the Japspeed ends.

No the hubs are quite different to the way you have yours done billy. I was originally supposed to get tein rods but I thought I could use with standard rods and save some money but turns out there not good enough:o
The standard tie rods have been sleeved and are 20 or 25mm longer iirc. Hitting the end of the rack, so need longer thread on the inner tie rod so more washers can be added giving more travel inside the rack. The difference in travel should be half inch with the longer thread and more washers allowing the extra couple of degree which the setup has been design for

[driftescort]

Got any pics of the hubs just out of interest in anything R32 related?:D

Its funny you are running out of rack before lock, most modded hubs set-ups will hit something before the rack maxes out unless you have got some silly wide track or really weak offset wheels (which I doubt you do). But as I said I don't know what set-up you are running but would be cool to see it.

[Cooldrft]

@ cool drift. Also what are the dimensions, exta length, travel etc..

They allow the rack to move in 11mm on each side.
lengthen the track rod from 40mm to what ever length you want.
The advantage of these is you can use stock rods or tein rods ,witch is handy if you're looking for a spare @ an event.
Drop me a p.m if you're interested in a set.

[Kev-200sx]

They allow the rack to move in 11mm on each side.
lengthen the track rod from 40mm to what ever length you want.
The advantage of these is you can use stock rods or tein rods ,witch is handy if you're looking for a spare @ an event.
Drop me a p.m if you're interested in a set.

Pm'd.

[gem-s13]

you shouldnt need to let the tie rod into the rack more if the hubs are modified properly, if the rack wishbones and knuckles are all modified the right amount and the tie rods lengthened the right amount then you should only be useing 3/4's of the steering rack travel,

[skinnynphats200]

Got any pics of the hubs just out of interest in anything R32 related?:D

Its funny you are running out of rack before lock, most modded hubs set-ups will hit something before the rack maxes out unless you have got some silly wide track or really weak offset wheels (which I doubt you do). But as I said I don't know what set-up you are running but would be cool to see it.

Its not fully finished yet but will be posting all pics up on my build thread very soon, but yes, silly wide track is correct, and running 9.5 et12 on front

[skinnynphats200]

They allow the rack to move in 11mm on each side.
lengthen the track rod from 40mm to what ever length you want.
The advantage of these is you can use stock rods or tein rods ,witch is handy if you're looking for a spare @ an event.
Drop me a p.m if you're interested in a set.

pm me a price on a set of 32 rods, 25mm longer, thanks

[B&G Extreme Drifting]

That's a diff story altogether I didn't know you had all these mods done. Do you need extended rods to correct this??

[driftescort]

you shouldnt need to let the tie rod into the rack more if the hubs are modified properly, if the rack wishbones and knuckles are all modified the right amount and the tie rods lengthened the right amount then you should only be useing 3/4's of the steering rack travel,

This is what I was saying as well.

[skinnynphats200]

I'm probably explaining this all wrong lads and confusing you and myself :o All I know is I need to get aftermarket tie rods with longer thread :D

[Jay Rockett]

The knuckles arnt done like your's Billy, they were designed to be used with bump-steer correction outer ends, like the Japspeed, KTS, TDP kits..

With minimal mod's this setup is giving the best results.. There wouldnt be a need for more rack travel if the knuckles were done slightly differently or if bump-steer correction outer ends are used!

Kyle just get the Tein rod's Gem has up there, or the likes of the Japseed things when ya can!

[skinnynphats200]

Thanks Jay was hoping you would post and explain :cool: Yup yup, will do

[Jay Rockett]

Thanks Jay was hoping you would post and explain :cool: Yup yup, will do

Nay bother, see ya tomorrow dude!

[Shane f]

The thread on the inside of the Japspeed tie rods is the same as the Tein's without their washer fitted . So the Japspeed rods have 6mm more thread into the rack then Tein's

[skinnynphats200]

The thread on the inside of the Japspeed tie rods is the same as the Tein's without their washer fitted . So the Japspeed rods have 6mm more thread into the rack then Tein's

So Japspeed rods have a 6mm longer thread into the rack for defintite yeah???
Cheers mate exactly what I was looking to find out

[Shane f]

Yup I designed them :D

[skinnynphats200]

Yup I designed them :D

Good work! :cool: