S-Body front suspension on a R32

[slithertooth]

Any pointers on the best way to go about this, have R33 lower arms/s body 5 stud hubs so next i'm wondering which strut to use- 13 or 14 and how important is exact top mount placement if top mounts and adjustable tension rods are fitted
Thanks

[gem-s13]

its very important to get it right if you want the car to handle right, s13 and 14 front oilovers are the same the only diffrance is the 13have m10 bolts in the bottom and 14 have m12,

and the top mount position in an s14 is 15-20mm(cant remember exactly) wider than an s13,

[Micko]

Get on to Nick Quely, hes done this before im sure he'll tell you all ya need to know

[driftescort]

I have thought about doing this to my own R32 but in the end I decided that modding the R32 stuff was a better idea.

[Robbie Daly Ps13]

Rory I have a 32 shell here with the fron't all done to take s13 gear...! Tip over someday if u like will give u a good idea and u can take mesurement or whatever u need...!

[alan opel]

other than getting rid of the gammy kingpins an upper camber arms, is there any advantages to changing to s body type struts? interesting to know :)

[slithertooth]

Thanks for the imput lads ,
Robbie definetly take you up on that,
Billy what have you planned , looking forward to seeing it , nice work on the front subf's btw
Alan mainly as an option to go withfor extra lock, partial curiosity

[Robbie Daly Ps13]

Main advantage is a macphearson strut which is a far better setup than a 32.... No bother Rory the shells here sitting in the yard....

[driftescort]

Thanks for the imput lads ,
Robbie definetly take you up on that,
Billy what have you planned , looking forward to seeing it , nice work on the front subf's btw
Alan mainly as an option to go withfor extra lock, partial curiosity

I am going to modify the hubs for more lock and quicker steering, much like people do with the S-body stuff. As well as that I obviously have already done the RB crossmembers to stop overcentre.


Main advantage is a macphearson strut which is a far better setup than a 32.

Maybe for drifting but even then I am not sold. If you were thinking of building a grip car you wouldn't dream of changing to a S-body set-up for example.

[slithertooth]

[QUOTE=driftescort;331501]I am going to modify the hubs for more lock and quicker steering, much like people do with the S-body stuff. As well as that I obviously have already done the RB crossmembers to stop overcentre.


Heard the s14 rack is the best option to use on 32's but never tried it, if it was going to be a grip car then would it not be even more beneficial by taking out the complex and heavy double wishbone and just having the macp strut,
fair heavy lumps of yoks they are

[driftescort]

Heard the s14 rack is the best option to use on 32's but never tried it, if it was going to be a grip car then would it not be even more beneficial by taking out the complex and heavy double wishbone and just having the macp strut,
fair heavy lumps of yoks they are

All I can think an S14 rack would do is get rid of the speed adjusting power steering on the R32 but then if it was a road car I would keep that and if you just change the rack and do nothing with the pump it may wear out the P/S pump.

Yes the front suspension is heavier but offers quite a few advantages over the S-body setup, such as a fixed placement coilover which means the camber will not change as the wheels are turned which it will on a S-body. Also due to the coilover being mounted further forward in a R-body compared with a S-body you effectively have your engine mounted further back between the struts then it would be in a S-body.

[slithertooth]

All I can think an S14 rack would do is get rid of the speed adjusting power steering on the R32 but then if it was a road car I would keep that and if you just change the rack and do nothing with the pump it may wear out the P/S pump.

Yes the front suspension is heavier but offers quite a few advantages over the S-body setup, such as a fixed placement coilover which means the camber will not change as the wheels are turned which it will on a S-body. Also due to the coilover being mounted further forward in a R-body compared with a S-body you effectively have your engine mounted further back between the struts then it would be in a S-body.

s14 rack is meant to be a quicker rack! not 100 per cent sure though, i'v a r33 rack in mine and you do loose the sps but i prefer the feel of it , running a r33 p/s pump too as the hicas is completely removed.

Yeah see what you mean by moving the position of the struts and changing camber but would still like to drive both for comparison , modified double wishbone and s body set up in the 32

[driftescort]

s14 rack is meant to be a quicker rack! not 100 per cent sure though, i'v a r33 rack in mine and you do loose the sps but i prefer the feel of it , running a r33 p/s pump too as the hicas is completely removed.

Yeah see what you mean by moving the position of the struts and changing camber but would still like to drive both for comparison , modified double wishbone and s body set up in the 32

Oh ya I am 100% agree I would love to drive one with the S-body stuff fitted to see whats its like. I did even consider doing it to my R32 but after costing it and considering it I decided it was too much cost and hassle to bother doing it.

[Jay Rockett]

Also due to the coilover being mounted further forward in a R-body compared with a S-body you effectively have your engine mounted further back between the struts then it would be in a S-body.

Was just about to say the same thing! Keep the double-wishbone setup,
Skylines will handle like crap with S-body suspension.