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topdog
22-01-11, 13:03
Hey lads was just wondering, I know there are a few different types of T28 turbos but was wondering is the gti-r T28 a ball bearing turbo or not and is it the same or similar to the s15 bb turbo?
Im looking to put this on my 180, will it be ok?
Thanks

casper
22-01-11, 14:13
not sure of the exact spec of the gtir turbo but i know it is differant to all other t28s and im pretty sure its not a ball bearing...thats not to say it wont fit!

ian g sr20
22-01-11, 15:06
ul get an s15bb turbo hadny enough so y not just get 1 insted of trying to get a gti-r 180sx breaker on her has s15bb turbo for sale buy that

topdog
22-01-11, 15:39
Cause I can get my hands on a gti-r one cheap and was just wondering the spec on em? The s15 ones are ar .6 I think and your man said this one is ar .8 What does that mean? Bigger turbo or what?

Stevo
22-01-11, 15:42
Cause I can get my hands on a gti-r one cheap and was just wondering the spec on em? The s15 ones are ar .6 I think and your man said this one is ar .8 What does that mean? Bigger turbo or what?

.6 and .8 are the factory boost settings

kevy-s13
22-01-11, 16:26
set to 0.6 and 0.8 bar boost pressure from standard that is....

nikkisixx69
22-01-11, 16:28
gtir turbos are a little laggier than standard t 28's but good for up to 330 bhp iirc and im pretty sure its not bb

darren C
22-01-11, 16:29
as far as i no lad gtir tubby isnt bb

topdog
22-01-11, 17:28
I can get one cheap you think it worth a buy over a s15 bb?

nikkisixx69
22-01-11, 17:31
I can get one cheap you think it worth a buy over a s15 bb?

depends how cheap!! your average s15 turbo goes for around 300 euros, so if there is a big saving go for it, they are laggier then the s15 turbos though

ian g sr20
22-01-11, 17:32
the s15 turbo is prob the best turbo upgrade for 180sx/s14 for the moneys nice spool from them and can push them for 330bhp thel take 1.3 bar

topdog
22-01-11, 17:33
What rev range would it be coming on boost at?

ian g sr20
22-01-11, 17:37
What rev range would it be coming on boost at?

u were in pauls car ya? DO U LIKE HIS CAR AND HOW RESPONSIVE IT IS, U WERE ALSO IN MY CAR AFTER WAS BEEN MAPPED MINE IS ON FULL BOOST AT ROUGHLY 4K RPM and pulls nicley all the way to 7k rpm

topdog
22-01-11, 17:41
That rev range question was for nikki bout the gtir turbo but ya I was in yours and pauls car but I can pick this turbo up handy and was just rtying to find out a bit about it, just kinda wondering whats so much better about the s15 turbo?

ian g sr20
22-01-11, 17:43
That rev range question was for nikki bout the gtir turbo but ya I was in yours and pauls car but I can pick this turbo up handy and was just rtying to find out a bit about it, just kinda wondering whats so much better about the s15 turbo?

the s15 tubby is a ballbearing turbo which means quicker spool and more responsive people upgrade to the s15 tubby for all these reasons, their is very little lag with an s15 turbo also. how much can u get the gti-r turbo for

topdog
22-01-11, 17:49
100 quid. Waiting for him to send me on pics

fudder
22-01-11, 19:27
100 quid. Waiting for him to send me on pics

buy it god bless us 100notes cant go wrong and if it does its only a ton haha

but theres a bitta work to fitting this to your car not direct swap but not much work either

topdog
22-01-11, 21:11
It is a direct swap sure the gtir is an sr20 aswell, same engine just swap manifolds me thinks

darren C
22-01-11, 21:26
It is a direct swap sure the gtir is an sr20 aswell, same engine just swap manifolds me thinks

the water and oil lines are slightly dif you wil havto do a bit of bendin but u bil get it on arite just be gentle and patiant ha

fudder
23-01-11, 11:47
It is a direct swap sure the gtir is an sr20 aswell, same engine just swap manifolds me thinks

aswell as the lines being diffferent ..the joint were your intercooler joins to the turbo is 2 bolt instead of your 180sx 3 bolt

ian g sr20
23-01-11, 11:59
just buy an s15 tubby will ya dnt be such a hump with the notes at least then ul know wat ur getn and kow it will fit

sideways boy
23-01-11, 15:09
I agree. S15 is better option. GTIR turbo is an older journal bearing design and will be less responsive. For the sake of 200 euros extra you would be better off with the S15 turbo

topdog
24-01-11, 17:55
I agree. S15 is better option. GTIR turbo is an older journal bearing design and will be less responsive. For the sake of 200 euros extra you would be better off with the S15 turbo

Exactly the kinda answer I was lookin for thanks, not being a hump with the notes was curious as I didnt know anything about the gtir turbo

serious tom
26-01-11, 00:17
Does a 15bb just fit straight in a 180?

darren C
26-01-11, 18:57
Does a 15bb just fit straight in a 180?

make sure you get actuator and if u can try get oil and water lines aswel as the s15 bb is slightly bigger than standard tubby